Posts by cameo-d

(Acts 21:21) 21 But they have heard it rumored about you that you have been teaching all the Jews among the nations an apostasy from Moses, telling them neither to circumcise their children nor to walk in the [solemn] customs.

So Christianity was called an apostasy from Moses by Judaizer opponents.. hmmm...

Bingo. Why do you think Jesus came specifically to speak to the Jews?

They were not so much a "special" people as they were a "special needs" people.

Abraham, Moses, Jacob..... seems there was something very wrong in what they were teaching people. Jesus came to straighten them out.

Then they said to Paul, "Brother, you can see that many thousands of our people have become believers. And they think it is very important to obey the law of Moses. 21 They have heard about your teaching, that you tell our people who live among the nations to leave the law of Moses. They have heard that you tell them not to circumcise their children and not to obey customs.

They caused all the people to be upset and grabbed Paul. 28 They shouted, "People of Israel, help us! This is the man who goes everywhere teaching against the law of Moses, against our people, and against this Temple.

According to this scripture, it seems that the Apostles were the first APOSTATES. They were in opposition of the things that had been taught by Moses.

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should man strive for perfection?

by cameo-d in

is it necessary that man should strive to be "as perfect as god"?.

does man have the capability to become as "perfect as god"?.

all the rules and laws, and statutes, and commandments have not served to make man perfect.

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Will perfection mean that we lose our free will so that we don't make moral errors?

Doesn't that seem to be the general idea of perfection?

After all, we've had all these rules and laws and commands and we have not been able to meet them to perfection while having free will.

IDK, but I just get this feeling that the freewill and emotion will have to be knocked out of us in order to attain this robotic perfection.

Only Stepford People will be ideal candidates for the final phase.

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Organ transplants...cannibalism?

by hubert in

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friends

i had heard that in the 1960's, the watchtower society forbade organ transplants, based on the bible stating it was cannibalism.. is there anything in writing in any of their books or cd library that verifies that stance?.

can you give me a list of where i can find this material?.

thanks so much.. hubert.

cameo-d

In this light, as presented in this video, it may be a psychological cannibalism, if there is such a thing. But after viewing this, I feel there are some very dark things about transplants that we may not be aware of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vx5afAtGAY

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Now the WT Society is Telling Witnesses- Don't Worry too Much About Health

by flipper in

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in the nov.15th watchtower that a lurking witness friend i have on the board sent me , it really guilts the witnesses into not worrying about their health but pushes them to do more, more, more.

it has a disgusting picture of perfect martyrdom of a sister in a wheelchair witnessing to a lady at her door with the caption, " despite health problems , jehovah's people find joy in the ministry.

a few twisted points i wanted to share to show you how mind controlled the witnesses are in even controlling it's members view of showing concern for their health !

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Of course , we are aware that perfect health is not yet attainable . Therefore, we know it is wise to avoid letting our health become an obsession or a constant concern

It sounds to me like they are preparing the crowd for the impending collapse of the health care programs.

They are manipulating them to ignore the importance of health as a way of managing crowd control and panic by heading it off before tshtf.

When the health care system falls, the JWs will say "oh yes, we've discussed that; we knew before all of you; we are prepared; we know it was all just a bandaid anyway...and now we are looking forward to the real thing...." JWs will be calm in the storm when there's chaos all around. This is a blatant manipulation being put into place so they don't freak out when it hits. When programs get pulled; when ins. cuts back...JWs must be prepared to defend "Jehovah's actions" no matter the personal cost to them. Many will loose benefits. These mental preparations will make them "martyrs for the new system" when they become ill because they can't get proper care.

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Is The WT Society Getting Financially Desperate ? Nov.15th WT Your Take ?

by flipper in

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friends

as most of us know on the board - awhile back the watchtower society printed a brochure called : "charitable planning to benefit kingdom service worldwide.

" it was written to provide info to witnesses on a variety of ways that gifts may be made to the society presently or at death.

i have a lurking witness friend on the board who sent me the nov. 15th watchtower and it has an article entitled, " ways in which some choose to give ".

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They didn't mention jewelry.

Are they not taking jewelry anymore?

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A knock-down argument against the WBTS interpretation of Matt 24:45-47!

by yadda yadda 2 in

the wbts teaches that in 1919 jesus inspected all of christendom and appointed the wbts "over all his belongings" in fulfillment of matthew 24:45-47: "who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.

truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.".

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51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

According to this criteria it's obvious that he has not returned yet.

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Economic Crisis!

by the sage in

have we arrived?.

rev.16:16 then they gathered the kings together to the place that in hebrew is called armageddon.. rev.16:19 the great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed.

god remembered babylon the great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath.

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or do you just put your head in the sand like some of the rest here?

do you DO something?

or do you just accept it as inevitable and prepare for the death march?

If this is the beginning of the end...what's your next move?

WT will probably be joyous at the destruction, yet ignore the reality of the plight of its members...wonder if the attitude will be in favor of waking up more people to the crass hypocrisy?

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Four Horsemen

by cameo-d in

does wt teach that the rider on white horse is jesus?.

do the other horsemen have identities that are actually named?.

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Since the rider of the first horse is wearing a crown... lets consider the literal meanings of the possibility of this crown.

First of all there is no information to uphold that it is any monarchy or specific governmental entity. The "Crown" may be a private foreign power. There is a specific church that has been known as the Crown for centuries.

What is the difference between a temple and a church? Is there any difference or could the crown actually be a Temple Church? This particular church is outside any canonical jurisdiction.

Is it possible that legal and financial systems are controlled by a crowned temple? Is there not an entity known as crown bankers, (which does not refer to any national monarchy)?

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fwd Email claiming 1980 AWAKE! "predicted" this economic crisis

by inkling in

i did.

*gag* got it from a family member.

i didn't even acknowledge receipt - i just deleted it.. purza.

cameo-d

Well since they seem to have insider info on the markets....maybe they should be held responsible for coughing up some of the bail out cash.