Hyghlandyr
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Do you really know what you believe?
by Leolaia inthere is a thought-provoking article on religion in the latest issue of skeptical inquirer.
i thought i'd share this quote which bears on jw issues in an interesting way:.
"do people know what their religious concepts are?
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Is this Islam?
by Sirona in.
i'm always willing to give a religion a chance, especially when i don't know much about it.
does this represent islam's view of women?.
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Hyghlandyr
I liked your comments about a religion several hundred years younger than christianity doing things that christianty was doing several hundred yearrs ago. Woe to the jws..they are, as I have said multiple times, in the place that the catholic church was several hundred years ago.
Religion..control. Why not make up your own? its more fun. If you are going to be misogynistic..why not include whips and chains consensually..and make it fun..yum
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Verdelle
by bebu inthis morning i went to a meeting at our church.
someone commented that we should consider a hispanic outreach, and a lady i know, verdelle, said, "do you know which group is evangelising the hispanics like crazy around here?
" no one answered, so she told us: "the jehovah?s witnesses.
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Hyghlandyr
I said at last, "A year ago, if you had told me this, I would have probably told you, ?Oh man, I?m really sorry to hear that-- that is just awful,? and not guess at the depth... But today...! ... Today! I really, really am sorry to hear all of this, Verdelle. I am really, so really sorry Verdelle...."
That says how many of us feel Bebu. And we keep feeling it more deeply as time goes on. Hugs goddess.
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Can a Skeptic believe in God?
by Beans inrecently i got the winter edition magazine of the ontario skeptic news and found a great six page article on "can a skeptic believe in god?
and what a great read it was, some of the points were well versed.
it went into some detail of believers and non believers arguing about god, what i found interesting was how at the end of the argument both sides would have felt they had won the argument.
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Hyghlandyr
Faith means merely to trust. It does not mean to trust in things which do not exist. To have faith in god? Trust in god? Which god becomes the question then. I have faith in the Sun and she is one of my gods. As is the tide. Christians call this worshipping the created instead of the creator, although the created becomes creator in my pantheon. And of course the fact that my religion has no creator deity. Life always has and always will, individual lives modify, change, die, are reborn in many ways. You can choose to accept those terms literally or symbolically if you wish.
Skepticism is, as has been stated not doubting. That is doubt. Skepticism merely recognizes that claims are not always factual. Knowing that people have lied, it is not so hard to realize that people can also lie about the claims of what goddess has told them. We can believe for instance in the Deity, and yet not believe that the bible respresents the words, deeds, or ideas of the deity. Or the quran, the bagvad gita, the Tain bo Culaigne (although a skeptic will admit that the Tain is most likely of divine origin, and certainly is far more divine than all the other silly books of other peoples...It is after all of Irish origin). To be skeptic is not to challenge the divine, it is to challenge your claim of divinit.
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Self control
by trumangirl insince fading, i've noticed my 'self-control' is better.
i mean by that, things that i really believe are wrong or not good for me, i find easier to resist.
not that i did anything 'gross' before, but just things like being gluttonous, bitchy, dishonest, materialistic, all those things that i don't want to do because i know they have bad consequences but do anyway sometimes (because of being 'imperfect'?).
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Hyghlandyr
Guilt...
It is a never ending spiral down. When one feels guilt, she enters into a cycle. Guilt causes her to feel worth less than she is. This causes her to feel unworthy of the good. Since the good is perceived as a specific course of action, she feels even unworthy, and thus unable, to follow through with that course. This then leads to guilt, for not having done the good action. Which leads to an inability to perform the good action, which leads to more guilt, more inaction, more guilt, more inaction, more guilt ad infinitum.
What then is the solution? Eliminate guilt. I made a decision in 1995 when I ceased attending the JWs. It was that I would from that day forth do one of two things, I would either continue any action I was doing, or I would cease doing the action. In either case I would not feel guilt. Guilt did not prevent me from doing the action. In fact it only made me do more of what I felt guilty about. So if someone complained to me about something, if I felt it was something worth changing, even if just for them, then I would do so. If I was not goingg to change, then I would not feel guilty about the lack of change. Suddenly all of the things that I was doing that I felt guiulty about, I no longer did. (Except for masturbation...which I continued with as much earnest as I had before, but then I would cuddle myself afterwards, telling myself sweet words of love, embracing fully in devotion to the one person I knew who sought my own pleasure, me. Thus I no longer felt bad afterwards, but elated, physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually.)
I think you and I are describing the same process in different ways.
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Is this Islam?
by Sirona in.
i'm always willing to give a religion a chance, especially when i don't know much about it.
does this represent islam's view of women?.
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Hyghlandyr
Talesin, good points. Of course men are starting finally to work on things like pleasin chicks. And beauty. We even have makeup now. Finally a man can wear makeup and look good and not be considered effiminate (sp?).
Those points that the men can do for their women that I posted were not entirely unreasonable. But, while giving some things that are nice, the facts are that women are still subjugated. As we learned with the taliban, when women are subjugated, so are men. It is time to let freedom ring. And to dismiss these ancient middle eastern rules and texts designed entirely around inheriting of land and sheep! (This includes the various hebraic, christian, islamic, zoarastrian and other texts). Give me Irish religion, even Irish christianity (pre roman impositions) over any of that nonsense..or some of the old african religions wherein women were equal (again before islamic impositions).
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"He's a Jehovah"
by logansrun inhave you ever thought that "jehovahs witnesses" is a difficult name to pronounce for a religion?
if i had a dollar for every time in my life someone said, "oh, you're a jehovah, aren't you?
i'm a jehovah.
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Hyghlandyr
Personally, I think they should change 'Kingdom Hall' to 'House of Pain & Boredom', but that's just one woman's opinion. *lol*
Talesin, at first I thought y ou said house of pain and torture. I was bout to say "sign me up." Alas though it was pain and boredom. Personally I had fun at the hall though. And goin door to door. I know lots of yall didnt like that but I am a talker. It was the perfect religion for a guy like me. Well almost perfect, except for their immoral requirements of marraige before sex. Sex should be open to everyone that is of age and consenting. Yes....house of pain and torture would exactly be the perfect religion:D Yum yum.
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Is this Islam?
by Sirona in.
i'm always willing to give a religion a chance, especially when i don't know much about it.
does this represent islam's view of women?.
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Hyghlandyr
Here is their view on husbands makingg their wives happy:
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Is this Islam?
by Sirona in.
i'm always willing to give a religion a chance, especially when i don't know much about it.
does this represent islam's view of women?.
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Hyghlandyr
Let me first comment on Muslim's comments...
I am dubious whether this fellow is actually islamic. Though his statements are similar to those of other muslims I have meet. As far as nudity goes, why are a man's breasts inoffensive yet a woman's breasts are offensive. It is immoral to hide the human body all of the time, and it should be revealed. The beatings, stonings, jealousies, wars and such that sexual control has created demonstrate the immoralness of the position of monogamy, marraige, and sexual restraint. I am speaking here of the type of restraint imposed by one on another, through penalty, physical, emotional, mental and such. Guilt is heaped upon people because of sexual practices and desire, both beautiful and natural, and yes this includes lesbianism and male homosexuality. The fact that these all are seen as threats is immoral in themselves. Sexual and other forms of self control, of consent, are holy however. It is righteous to enjoy sex or to refrain, as one CHOOSES to do so without imposition on another. She that will refrain is equally as sacred as she that will indulge. Both doing so of their own decisions and free will, neither forced. He that chooses lovers or lover is as sacred as he that does not. Many have a long way to go to see this perspective...islam, christians, atheists, pagans. I still see many that think of morals in context of sexuality. I see morals in context of consent and violence. If you are harming another you are immoral (unless they consent to it as say in the case of boxers or wrestlers, and that with rules)
Now regarding the comments from the link...
Many of the things said there if applied to husband and wife, male and female, across lovers, friends, siblings, workmates, and such, would be a beautiful thing. If someone is angry, and she does not want to be pressed for why, let her alone for the time until she is ready to talk about it. If he wants to go for a walk by himself until he is calm enough to talk about what is making him angry without biting at her, so be it. But it should apply to both, and all. This is simply common wisdom.
However much of what is written there is with slavery in mind. While some of it is very reasonable..be beautiful for your man, be attractive for your woman (applying it here as I am equally as can be done to all four sexes, male, female, intersexed, and genderless), some of it is clearly an indication of sharp control. Think you the muslims are different than christians? Read christian works, written by women, and you will find similar things. In a BDSM context, of consent, it would be totally cool. They could have added, kneel when he enters the room and lick his boots. :D
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One good reason....
by Strawberryfieldsforever ingive me one good reason that god exists.
i don't believe in him anymore...but i would like to know why some of you do?
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Hyghlandyr
Want absolute proof that the goddess or god exists? Look into the mirror.