I missed this, and the video was removed. What is this all about? Was it the United video that had Gilead graduation in the past? I fell for the surfer dudes experience, "perfect surf everyday." Would love to know if that guy is still a JW. Anyone know?
startingovernow
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Here I Am in the Borg's Latest "Borganization" Video
by AllTimeJeff inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jrfu9gyecq.
i don't know how to put a youtube video on, but at about the 55-59 second mark of this, you can see.... the back of my head.
studying with my ex in the gilead library.. somehow, i am glad my face didn't make it, although it is bittersweet to see a few people.. thanks to a@g for making this monday a trek down memory lane.... .
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If They Weren't a Cult Before.....
by AllTimeJeff ini just wanted to officially change something on my viewpoint.
i have thought about this for a few days.
i used to think that while they were in some ways controlling, that jw's did not meet the criteria of a cult totally.
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startingovernow
They have reigned in all WT conductors. From now on, no WT conductor can use any research he found. All answers to the nonsense questions must come only from the paragraph and the conductor and the commentors can only use scriptures that are cited in the paragraph.
Do you have a reference for this statement, ATJeff?
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"But Mom, they're Theocratic"
by Gram inthis was my argument to be allowed to go out with our "group" back in the 1960's.
"the young ones", as they are now called -- anyway we hung out from several local congs.
ages from about 15 - 25, give or take.
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startingovernow
Wow, the 60's and 70's must have been a different time in many ways. No regular fun for me, and certainly no Watchtower Study with young people.
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easier to leave...born ins or joined later???...i know the answer........
by oompa inwell at least i know it from my own friends and geographic region........... but i will wait to hear your response....i am fourth gen btw...and unfortunately birthed.... and did a good job at raising a fifth dammit....oompa.
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startingovernow
Interesting responses. I would say that it matters not so much whether someone was born in or joined but how much they thought it was the Truth. For me, if it was just based on hypocrisy and lack of love I would have left a long time ago. But then would I have not been proving Satan a lier. I'm embarrassed at how much crap I put up with before becoming inactive, but even after that I still was in mentally. I still viewed anything from "apostates" as dangerous. I came in my own and could have left on my own at any time, but well not really because I really believed Jehovah had sought me out and so to read anything contrary to what the FDS said would make me prey to the demons, and to leave Jehovah meant he would turn away from me. Once I read CofC and CCMC all that fear was lifted and I had no reason to stay in.
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The Grieving Process after Leaving the Cult
by cantleave ini really want my wife to see that we have spent our wholes lives in a lie, a lie promoted by mind controlling cult, but i have a problem and this is it........ my wife was extremely close to her grandmother, she lived with her in her teens and loved her to bits.
when her grandmother died, 5 years ago, my wife was devestated, the only thing that allowed her to combat the grief was the hope of the ressurection, being able to see her grandmother again in the new system.. it is in my opinion, this hope that keeps her going in the "truth".
if the she leaves the truth i am sure, that like me she will not fall back on any other religion, she will probably become more humanist and agnostic if not atheist.. this realisation will mean that she will never see her grandmother again.
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startingovernow
It is possible that you could show her that she is in a cult without destroying her faith in what the Bible says, since we are talking about two different things. Just because you no longer believe in a resurrection doesn't mean she has to in order to question her WT teachings. There are plenty of people who stop being JWs but still have faith in the Bible and what it says.
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First shunning today!
by sooner7nc ini'm at work right now.
i'm out walking the halls at the hospital i work at checking on my workers, making sure that everything is being cleaned properly, etc.
i turn down one hallway that passes in front of one of the diagnostic departments, and i see someone, an elders wife, sitting there waiting to be seen by the radiology staff.
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Of course there is always the possibility that she was too nervous about her test results and concerned with whatever health problem she has that required such a test that it wouldn't have mattered who passed her in the hall. It very well could have had nothing to do with you.
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"Remember, nobody can REALLY love you unless they know and love Jehovah first."
by AllTimeJeff in"unless they know and love jehovah first.
they love "jehovah".
they discuss how to make sure that though they are in charge, everyone doesn't see them, they see the great and powerful jehovah.... oh.
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startingovernow
As you pointed out, a non-JW could read the entire Bible, want to serve God, but because they haven't learned JW doctrine, any love shown to JWs would not be "real" love. Ironic since most of the JWs I knew at most read the Bible once in their life, and this was usually because it was required at Bethel. The majority of JWs I knew had not read the Bible cover to cover. What is important is meetting prep and magazine reading. There are so many JWs that are considered by all to be spiritual and mature but do not show love. When called on it, suddenly their lack of love is excused by imperfection.
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Do/did you like to read Daily Text?
by Albert Einstein ini hated it.
we actually never really did.. once, on vacations, we were with another family, they prepared food on the table for breakfast .... and then nobody could touch it for some 15 minutes, when daddy was reading daily text and asking childish questions ... family members were raising hands and answering .... we all were hungry... watching the food ... and hoping it will soon be over (i dont mean armageddon, i mean daily text...) i felt just like an idiot..... albert.
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Hated it. It usually just was a reminder of how hypocritical JWs were, since what was stated was the opposite of what I saw going on around me.
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Don't You Hate It When A Witness Says "We Miss You At Meetings?"
by Wasanelder Once indon't you hate the hypocrisy when you run into a witness you haven't seen in over 5 years (even thought they live less than five miles away in the same town) and they say, "we miss you at the meetings?
" they can't call or stop bye to say hello, but they miss me at the meetings.
what crap.
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startingovernow
Wow, I could have used you all about 10 years ago - thought I was the only one who felt this way.
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JW's on Facebook seem like happy people
by Smoky ini just recently got a facebook page and started to look up some old jw friends (im a long time fader).
i see there pictures and comments and feel kinda jealous that they all look happy (im in a rough stage in my life).
i never was happy as a jw, and since i faded i am more comfortable in my own skin....the future looks bright for me.
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startingovernow
If they say anything on FB that is anything other than happy-talk it will be printed off and shown to the elders as complaining, doubting, or evidence that a shepherding call is in order...