they use the fear of viruses and spyware as one of their favorite tools
Is that quoted somewhere WT?
lurk3r
this is for anyone who cares... just my thoughts and opinions, which have slightly changed since i have left the cult.
a poster named melita said some really inappropriate things on barbara andersons thread on jaracz's stroke, which got me to finally post this, just to put it out there...... when i first left, i was scared s*itless that i was being monitored and watched by bethel for reading and posting here.
and i bet i am.
they use the fear of viruses and spyware as one of their favorite tools
Is that quoted somewhere WT?
lurk3r
in the ble book "life - how did it get here?
by evolution or by creation?
" on page 203 you can see a picture of a mamooth with a note: frozen mamooth found in siberia ... still had grass in his mouth and in his stomach .... was frozen immediately ....".
Thanks bohm.
The thing is here, if you were to tell that to a JW, they would say that quite possibly the WT did make a mistake. However, I'm sure they would jump on the fact that it drowned and quite possibly from the flood! Followed by ice being formed after the weather changed...It would fit the agenda.
It never dawned on me till now, but why in the hell would god make animals with thick fur to begin with? Really good points made doofdaddy and observations Leo.
lurk3r
before this talk was given the chairman said the audience could make audio recordings for their personal use but specifically requested that they not make additional copies.
here are notes from someone who was in attendance.. this has already been posted but here are someone elses notes:.
what the near future holdsjanuary 27, 2008 (hawaii zone visit) gerrit loschalthough we cannot know our individual future, we do know mankind's immediate future (2 peter 3:17 "you, therefore, beloved ones, having this advanced knowledge").
Thank You Black Sheep.
"There's many predictions that people in the world make, and some come true, others not. So we never can rely on what people in the world say. But we can rely on Jehovah's word " and then emphasizes that Jehovah cannot lie." @ 1:40
They have not made any predictions that have come true. Plenty that have failed though. Do you think he skirts around this by saying "we can rely on Jehovahs word" and not bringing the "organization" in to that sentence?The average JW already equates them as being one and the same.
Do you think he is conscious of this when preparing the talk, intentionally "covering his ass?"
lurk3r
Time = Your best friend and your worst enemy. Both at once.
lurk3r
when you first heard them.
i must admit it's a rare occurence for song lyrics to shock me; however, it does happen.
one that i can think of offhand is that buck cherry song "crazy bitch.
ACDC - "Hells Bells" - that little ""Im gonna get ya ,Satan getcha!" - That one along with the other songs they hhad with "Satan" in em.
Top 40 has changed. I beleive there is more "crap music" in todays top 40 than 20 years ago. Technology has changed the way people listen to music, and they now have more of a choice than ever before to choose WHAT they want to listen to.
I think younger kids today are more in tune with music from 20 years ago because so much of todays music is just plain annoying. There are not near as many "artists" as their used to be. At least we get a choice now. The RIAA and the Borg are kind of in the same boat eh?
lurk3r
i remember working at a banquet hall/resturant, and it was just around the time when the jw teachings/actions weren't sitting well with me.
but my mind was still very much a jw.
a lady, whom i clicked with & whom i'd hung out with a few times, came up to me one day and said "homeschool, there's a couple things i wanted to tell you.
"Apostate" was bad for me... I thought I was ok with it, then i seen "Apostofest" and just about fell off my chair.
http://www.startribune.com/nation/46117732.html.
he admitted urinating in the elevator for months.
I bet he pees in the tub too.
i know that it still goes on in iran and somalia etc , but when did the jews stop doing this?
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I know that it still goes on in Iran and Somalia etc , but when did the Jews stop doing this?
lurk3r
ok, so now, i think the initial shock of all this is wearing off and anger is replacing it.... today makes 5 weeks... 5 weeks since i had a study with my "study conductor" and 5 weeks since i have not heard the sound of his voice... this person was someone who espoused integrity, love, brotherhood, justice, compassion, and on and on... i was told that central to the jw religion was the ministry.... the ministry comes first, everything else second... having bible studies was integral... and since we lost our jobs, it appears no longer convenient to have a study, so i am dropped like a lead balloon.... i am mad for two reasons: for 4 years, this guy to be my friend... he worked directly for me and it's clear now that he did this to his own advantage.
why would you not be friends with the boss... i favored him in most situations... a very bad thing to do in business but apparently i was too naive to see it... he saw the opening and he took advantage of it... shoot man, how stupid could i be.... second reason is the study... we would so it at the beginning of the day at work or at the end when no one was around.
again an easy an convenienet way to get your field service requirement completed... now that the convenience is gone and i maybe haven't progressed as far as they would like, i am history... what is up with that.... some advice please... there is no way to get to this person... he no longer has a phone and he will not answer his email... i need to close this off somehow... should i send a letter or something to get this off my chest and let him know how under-handed i think this has been... maybe writing it down and sending it off would alleviate some of this anger?
" he no longer had a phone and he will not answer his email."
He worked for you? Did you personally lay him of tucker? Is there a chance that he is bent outta shape or something? Your right though, it was an awfully good position for him to be in for the time being. It could be that the elders in the hall might have said something to him even.
I assume you live in his proximity? Perhaps write him a letter and hand deliver it, while looking him square in the eye? Make him promise to read it too as it may be harder for him to discard it that way.
If you do it write a letter...keep the beginning of it non hostile. For all the things you have read here that you know about, just take one or two points and let those sit in him. If you give him too many points to think about, he may forget them all - cause really HE WANTS to forget what you say. Keep it simple.
You have every right to fight bud, and you should. Do it strategically though, perhaps one day he may thank you...
Best of luck.