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Regarding Quoting Scriptures All the Time
by AllTimeJeff inare you really thinking for yourself when you quote scriptures all the time as your personal answer?.
i bring this up for two reasons: first and foremost, it became almost a game in jw land, a competition to see who had the better (wt approved) passage when something came up.. almost always of course, if it was "of this world", well, we know the nwt in particular is full of how bad "the world" is.
can't be part of "this world") its bad!.
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when I had the Gilead assignment to read it all the way through in 4 months, I didn't. I tried, but was just too busy....
you see what happens when you don't follow instruction from the slave? You see?! You end up HERE!! LOL ;)
The twenty or so times you have read through the good book Jeff, did things or anything stand out any different when you read through a translation that wasnt the NWT? Having read a few books out of the NIV, its almost been a pleasure to read in comparison to the NWT in my experience.
Not to jump in and defend anyone either, there is a stark contrast(at least to myself) in Christians who accept Christ, and WT followers. I don't say this to offend you, but what you defend is an interpretation of who "god" is to you, from the same book that JW's interpret their god from .
In my experience, and in really taking into account what others have to say with that experience, accepting JC is much more of a personal journey, and actually having the whole JC experience made manifest to them. Unlike people who worship Jehovah through the WT, it's not based on "head worship". It's an actual, real ,heart moving experience. I can see where they are coming from, but still look at it with bided suspicion on some level.
I totally hear where your coming from though.
"Life is a hard teacher, she gives the test first and the lesson afterwards."
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I am only Rallying Against Neuroticism In All Aspects.
Edit : It's late- lol Ty Spike.
I am only trying to Reduce Emptyheaded Neuroticsm In All Aspects
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lol@ Spike, particularily the "admirable".
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I completely and totally agree with ya Ohio. I personally think that she has no purpose on this board..other than to disrupt. She is not here to find her way, only steer others away. For every one individual here, who bites her hook, that is one less person that can spend time helping another, or sharing personal issues of significance. She is doing a fine job! Distraction and nothing else.
I am appaled at the amount of "Reniaa" threads, and have noticed that it is indeed and ego stroke for the ol' lass. I occasionally have a peek, but do not want to get caught up in the senselessness of it all. My expressions on this thread really felt good though! I'm not "against her", I'm just not on the side of anyone who wants to say the same thing, over and over, with no reason other than to occupy. It appears as though this board belongs to Reniaa, and I am every bit as tired of it as you and others....and she is laughing about it. Laughing. She is not sincere,and is not "searching" in any way, thought, shape or form. I beg to differ with your viewpoint on her "questioning things in her life", and thats pretty much about it.
I will wager to think that a lurker here on the board, with any amount of time spent, realizes that she is a disgrace to that in which she claims to represent. That in itself saddens me more than anything else. It's not a "JW" thing in her being "bullied", it's a Reniaa thing.
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Oh HI OH. I agree with ya in most respects there. I honestly bear her no ill will whatsoever, beleive it or not. I don't think that asilentone has any malicious intent towards her either. I have my own personal thoughts with regards her, and I used to feel similar to your expressions of defense towards her. I thought it was a great opportunity to have a little bit of fun. Nothing slanderous or anything, I do have a line in that regard.
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Personal experience of accepting Jesus as God, how was it for you?
by digderidoo ini have decided to start another thread to the one on jesus...god or god's son?.
the reason for this is that i started a thread really looking for personal experiences, looking for reasons those with a jw background would change their opinion on this.
i wanted to know why those that believe that jesus is god now feel this, whereas years ago they didn't.. i think it's a shame the other thread has descended into a debate between trinitarians and jw apologists, whereas only a couple of posters responded to my original post.
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Digder - Thanks for starting this thread. I'm not answering the question you posed, but would like to do a bit of digging in the same direction. I hope this is ok.
FHN - I can really appreciate where you coming from with the 9 year old analogy. I asked many questions when I was child as well. The Jesus being God has only been a consideration over the past 5 years or so, and unlike my 9 year old viewpoint, I have more experience since then. It doesn make "sense" to me, but there are many people that do see it that way, and they have some pretty good backup. I find it's something I'm forced to consider.
Drunk or not Jaguar, you have a some great lines in your post that I can relate to. Thanks. I hope your able to perservere in your struggle with the bottle. I truly, and wholeheartedly feel for your pain if I am reading things correctly.
Chalam - I appreciate you letting your feelings and thoughts out to the extent you have with your first post in this thread.It's a far cry from the "bible thumping" Chalam that I have come to "know". Granted I have not read all your posts, but I THINK , on a whole that's how I would sum it up for me personally. I'm fairly sure you realize that I mean no offense towards you. You can quote what the "good book" has to say till your blue in the fingers(ha!), but for myself, unless you actually say how you FEEL, in your own words, it will always fall short for me, as I think JC has to be bigger than the bible. After all, he is God right? He HAS to be.
I would LOVE to accept JC. I have reasons within myself, and outside of myself to too. But I won't, at least not yet.Until I am SURE, I will not take that plunge.
"Back at home I had an amazing experience. The best I can describe was it was like I was high on drugs. I felt like I was on cloud nine, like all the heavy things that were weighing me down had been lifted from me. I literally could not stop smiling all day long. That was not me! I had a few laughs in the 20 years but I was not a happy person, not all day long. Anyhow, it went on for days. My wife knew something was up. See could feel it and see it! The thing is, after that initial step of faith,I drifted back to "normal" and the awesome feeling I had ebbed away. Certainly after a couple of weeks, I was back to my sad life of sex, drug and rock and roll."
Chalam, I do appreciate your, along with others, expressions of faith regarding Jesus. There is nothing to hide...it's just JC. Plain and simple. But really, how do you know you didn't "sell out"? Im asking this in the most respectful way too, don't get me wrong. The last thing,the very last thing I am gonna do is accept him till I know...and one day, like yourself, perhaps I will. I don't see them too often, but there ARE ex born agains out there. I can think of NO worst feeling in "accepting him", only to "wonder" about it down the road. I appreciate your experience, but with all the many thoughts expressed in the world, and on this board, I would be devastated beyond expression in making such a pledge, knowing that I could well see it another way one day. For all the many idea's, thoughts and feelings I have had, accepting Jesus, somehow feels like the end of the line. I don't like that thought. An animal bound in a cage, if thats all he knows, is very happy there. Ignorance is bliss, at least for some. I would hate to accept him and become ignorant to the world around me. There are many questions, and many answers, and no offense, but your joy does not equal mine.
I once had a run in with some people, that hate him. I once had an experience that affected me, my heart, and my mind in very literal way. Throughout that period of time, and under some very extraordinary circumstances, I came to believe that "the spirit" of Jesus, does exist. I have had some grandiose thoughts about "the man", and in my wildest dreams have wondered about his "role". Accepting Jesus is an exchange of sorts in my opinion, and I would hate to be disappointed.After all, he is God to you and many. After that, there would be nothing left if it didn't work out. I'm not ready for that, nor will I prepare.
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Personal experience of accepting Jesus as God, how was it for you?
by digderidoo ini have decided to start another thread to the one on jesus...god or god's son?.
the reason for this is that i started a thread really looking for personal experiences, looking for reasons those with a jw background would change their opinion on this.
i wanted to know why those that believe that jesus is god now feel this, whereas years ago they didn't.. i think it's a shame the other thread has descended into a debate between trinitarians and jw apologists, whereas only a couple of posters responded to my original post.
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Really BTS - The poor guy that started this new topic thread, did so cause the last thread was hijacked. Your doing the exact same thing as Reniaa. Please man, refrain.