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  To czarofmischief

  by HyTech in

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  i read one of your posts stating that you were from the south hills congregation.

  i also attended there and was wondering where in the south hills you were from?

  i don't know of anyone else on this board from my area and was hoping to get in touch with you.

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  HyTech

  I read one of your posts stating that you were from the South Hills congregation. I also attended there and was wondering where in the South Hills you were from? I don't know of anyone else on this board from my area and was hoping to get in touch with you. Who knows, I may even know you already! Are you familiar with the Labaughs, Pauls, Kings, Durkins, etc.? It's been a few years since I was at a meeting, so I do not know of anyone new at the hall. I don't even know if they are still having meetings there since it is up for sale. Please respond if you are able. I don't know what your status is in the cong.
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  Do they intentionally love-bomb?

  by Xander in

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  i've seen this term used a lot (love-bombing) re: new jw studies.

  the implication is that this is some kind of nefarious wt strategy, but, the more i think about, the less i agree.

  at least, it's not an intentional strategy, i think, just something that happens that works to their advantage (getting new recruits in).. i grew up as a jw.

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  HyTech

  I don't know if they intentionally love-bomb or not. In my case, there was certainly a lot of attention given to me when I started making appearances at the hall. I was dating this girl (who is now my wife) and she was a witness long before I met her. Anyway, she was counseled about dating me and basically told the elders to mind their own, so to speak. Well, I did get kinda interested in what she was telling me about God and the witnesses and everything and I started going to meetings with her. Everybody was super-friendly. We started getting invited to dinners, lunches, graduation parties, etc. We were definitely being love-bombed. This went on for about 6 months while I was studying. I truly thought I had made some really good friends. Then my wife's sister decided to throw us an engagement party. All of our new friends were invited and it was going to be a good time. (I must mention that I was also going through the baptism questions at this time and was 1 more meeting away from getting approval). All in all, we must have invited 50 people from the hall to the party. NOT ONE OF THEM SHOWED UP FOR THE PARTY! The reasons given by each and every person was that they did not think it would be appropriate to celebrate our engagement because I was not yet a baptized brother. This should have tipped me off right then and there about my new 'friends'. Anyway, me and my wife are both out now and have 2 wonderful kids and are happier than ever. BTW, none of our old 'friends' have even seen our children nor expressed an interest to do so. So yeah, I would say they love-bomb, CONDITIONAL LOVE-BOMB.
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  WTBTS responds to my friends letter (scan)

  by hungry4life in

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  here is the response my friend got from the wtbts.

  in her original letter she respectfully stated her questions about 1914 and poured her heart out about her concerns on other doctrinal issues.

  she sincerely requested help and wrote about feeling torn by the contradictions she had come accross in her personal study.

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  HyTech

  They only want the names so they can send the letter to her congregation elders (if she is part of one). This happened to me a few years ago. I wrote directly to the GB and 3 or 4 months later, 2 elders stopped by to say they wanted to go over my questions with me that I had about the Society and its' teachings. Funny thing is, it was the same 2 elders that stopped by around Christmas time because they had seen the lights on the front of my house and were concerned. (They haven't shown any concern in 2 years.) I asked them why they were stopping now after so long when we weren't even in touch with anyone from the hall. They told me and my wife that we were being avoided by everyone because of that letter written 2 years ago. I asked them how it became public knowledge when it was only sent to the elders. This was the point they said it was getting late and would like to set up a meeting to discuss our association. Tell the Sister who srote the letter to NEVER give her real name if she does not want to be investigated or "Marked".

  Just my 2 cents.
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  Should I post here anymore?

  by Mindchild in

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  that is the question i've been asking myself.

  i'm not trolling for attention with this post.

  nobody has hurt my feelings.

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  HyTech

  Mindchild

  I do not post here an awful lot, but over the past few days I have gone through the process of being disassociated and posting here and hearing all of the responses made me even stronger in my resolve to stand up to these elders. This board has helped me a lot just by reading everyones different situations and how they handle them.

  I think it is good to post when you have something you need to say.
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  Just an update for you all!!!

  by HyTech in

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  my wife just called me at work to inform me the same 2 elders that paid us a visit the other night stopped by this morning ( while i wasn't home, of course!).

  they said they wanted to talk to her about the way she felt about the organization.

  she basically said the same things i did and they told her that there would be a letter of disassociation read at the next meeting.

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  HyTech

  Hello again everyone.

  My wife just called me at work to inform me the same 2 elders that paid us a visit the other night stopped by this morning ( while I wasn't home, of course!). They said they wanted to talk to her about the way she felt about the organization. She basically said the same things I did and they told her that there would be a letter of disassociation read at the next meeting. She asked them their reason for stopping by after all this time and they said something about caring for the flock. She asked them why they hadn't cared for the last 3 years and they did not know what to say. This is the first time I ever heard of an elder at a loss for words! Anyway, they asked her why we did not just disassociate ourselves a long time ago and she told them that she did not want to come across someone she used to know on the street or anywhere else for that matter and have them completely ignore her and she was also wondering why these same people never bothered to even see how we were doing for the past 3 years. They told her that no one has been associating with us because of a letter that I wrote to the GB 3 years ago questioning some of the teachings. My wife said she only thought of asking after they left "How did the entire cong find out about a letter that I wrote to the GB?" Anyway, they told her that after they make the announcement that we were da'ing ourselves, that as a consequence, we would be shunned by the entire cong and all other witnesses. They also told her that by being shunned she may eventually change her mind and come back into the org. She asked them how being treated that way would ever make her want to come back to that. They didn't appreciate that comment and told her that she deserves whatever she gets for becoming 'part of the world' and 'returning like a dog to his vomit'. She then asked them how it felt that their beloved org. has been riding the back of the great whore by being a member of the UN. (info that I got off this site, by the way. Thanks!) They told her that this was just a rumor being spread by apostates and there was no truth to it. This was when she showed them a printout of the letter to the UN. They were so taken aback! She said they actually looked at each other like they knew that it was the truth and they were wondering how we got this info. She also asked them about the 'Pay Attention to yourselves and all the Flock' Book that is given to elders. They again said they had no idea what she was talking about. She then proceeded to show them a copy of this also and they did not know which way to turn. She caught them in 3 lies in the space of 5 minutes. They asked her if she would please give them the book as it is only to be read by elders and she informed them she would not hand it over as it did not belong to them and she has not shown it to everyone yet! These 2 elders were quite pissed, to say the least. They eventually left after finding out their scare tactics would not make her come back to the fold, so to speak. Anyway, thank you all for your comments on my previous posts and I just cannot explain how I and my wife feel right now. It feels like the weight of the world has been lifted off our shoulders. Thanks again for letting me vent.
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  Hello again

  by HyTech in

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  just wanted to thank everyone for their comments on my post the other day.

  i was writing about the visit from the 2 elders that 'happened to be driving by my house' and stopped when they saw my christmas lights hanging on the house.

  my wife called her mother to inform her about the visit and she said that about a week ago, another witness stopped at her house and asked if her daughter and son-in-law (me) were still living at such and such an address.

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  HyTech

  Just wanted to thank everyone for their comments on my post the other day. I was writing about the visit from the 2 elders that 'happened to be driving by my house' and stopped when they saw my christmas lights hanging on the house. My wife called her mother to inform her about the visit and she said that about a week ago, another witness stopped at her house and asked if her daughter and son-in-law (me) were still living at such and such an address. She told them yes. This is apparently how the elders found out about the decorations and they lied when they said they just happened to be driving by. They were informed by this witness about the decorations and decided to take a look for themselves. What arrogance! Is it common for other witnesses to spy on one another? Anyway, I haven't heard anything yet. I will keep you all posted on the outcome and again, thanks for all your support. I really do appreciate it.
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  Can anyone help me out here?

  by HyTech in

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  i was getting the kids ready for bed last night and i heard the doorbell ring.

  it was about 7:30 and i had no idea who it could be.

  i opened the door and 2 elders from our hall were standing there.

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  HyTech

  I was getting the kids ready for bed last night and I heard the doorbell ring. It was about 7:30 and I had no idea who it could be. I opened the door and 2 elders from our hall were standing there. They said they just happened to be driving by and notice the christmas lights outside and were wonderinf if we had decided to start celebrating this holiday. I politely asked them if this was a trick question and they proceeded to tell me that as a witness, we were not to participate in these 'traditions'. I have not been to a meeting in over 3 years. My wife hasn't either. Why are they coming around now? Does this have anything to do with the recent elders meeting and those who are just trying to fade away? I told them I did not have the time to talk to them right now and would get back to them at a later time. They told me that if I did not want to be a witness anymore (huh?, after 3 years you think they would have figured this out) that they could take the steps to help me out in this area. Can anyone think of any scriptural reason they have for disfellowshipping me and my wife? I would appreciate any suggestions on this matter.
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  Is the Flood Story True?

  by JosephAlward in

  1. watchtower
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  those who have not yet relinquished their right to think for themselves should be virtually certain that the story of noah and the ark is a fable.

  those who believe the bible's stories are literally true find it almost impossible to address with a straight face the problems presented below.. then the flood came which destroyed every living thing which was not in the ark: "and every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.

  " (genesis 7:23).

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  HyTech

  Pinoyluv691,

  God LOVES all his creations? Is that why he destroys them all equally? No discriminating here. Just kill 'em all! Sounds like your Jehovah needs a good therapist! There are too many instances in the bible where he acts like a stubborn child instead of a loving father. Get your facts straight and READ your bible unbiasedly. You're sure to get more out of it that way.
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  New Here

  by AlmightyPrincess in

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  2. experiences

  i just thought i'd drop a note.

  i have been reading these boards for over 2 maybe 3 weeks, and a couple days ago registered.

  even though i have never posted i feel like i know a lot of you already.

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  HyTech

  Welcome Lidia and Nixi I'm new here too. Been looking around a few weeks and got brave enough to finally post a few days ago. I'm glad I'm not the only one new here. It is just too bad the watchtower has destroyed so many peoples lives. I'm glad I made it out okay but some of the stories here are pretty disturbing. Hang in there.
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  Years in v. Years Out

  by Billygoat in

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  i'd like to find out how many years collectively we have acquired in the wts.

  please list how many years you were/have been a jw.

  please also list how many years you have been out.

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  HyTech

  Reading all the times you folks have in, I feel like I'm almost lucky too have found out the truth so early.

  In 3 years
  out 2 years