I went to an amway meeting many years ago back when I was JW. They are just like the JW's in recruitment and indoctrination methods. Or the JW's are just like them, take your pick.
KidKool
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And Jesus Will Answer, "I Know You Not!"
by cameo-d inmatthew 7:.
21not every one that saith unto me, lord, lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my father which is in heaven.. 22many will say to me in that day, lord, lord, have we not prophesied in thy name?
and in thy name have cast out devils?
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KidKool
I agree on one level that there are other religions that are just as controlling and manipulative as the JW's. However, as an ex-jw, I will say that my radar works pretty well on detecting them and just wouldn't join them.
Most charitable organizations have board members and employees that are earning a living or better off of the charity, so every person should investigate before they give their money to someone else. In other words, some charities are using a greater percentage of their contiributions for true charity than others. So as an ex-JW I use my own judgment in who I contribute to. And would never make a blanket statement that other religions are better just because they "give to charity"
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so I was listening to christian radio this morning. . .
by John Doe inyeah, don't laugh.
anyway, they went on and on nonstop about how we should all be grateful and how we are a bunch of spoiled brats and how it personally offends god if we are not grateful.
i couldn't help but chuckle.
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KidKool
It has been very enlightening to me, a person raised as a JW, to get out listen to other religions , and realize that JW's are not the only ones with the crazies.
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Santa Claus
by Joshnaz ini was thinking about if i should start telling my 2 year old about santa claus.
after realizing that i've been lied to my whole life from all the jw bullcrap should i lie to my child about santa claus?
do you think its ok to say, "be good or santa wont bring you any toys this christmas.
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KidKool
Hello Joshnaz,
I personally didn't go the Santa Claus route with my son. Because I think my JW parents would use it against me, like "see your dad tells you things that aren't true, and we have the 'real truth'." So if your child still has dealings with JW relatives I would advise against it. Otherwise, it would be great fun for your child to believe in Santa Claus for a while. Wish I had gotten a chance to be a real child myself. -
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Are Jehovah's Witness men good catches?
by garyneal ini've stated this before on this message board but i was kind of curious about this and wanted to get some feedback from the group.
in particular, the ladies who are either current or former jw's.. about a year or so ago, my wife went with me to a church i was attending at the time.
we then later that morning attended a kh meeting.
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KidKool
"KidKool:
Well, my wife and I both agreed that my sister-in-laws ex-boyfriend (baby's daddy) was in no way a 'good catch.' Frankly, we could not even understand why she bothered with him to start with.
Still though I could not understand why my wife felt the same way she did concerning a JW man. I wasn't like that at all and of course I was not perfect but I figured that in all fairness, she could've gotten much worse. And yes, I could have gotten much worse also. But then again, I don't see where things were so bad between us."
garyneal: I see your point now. A little background- I've been divorced for many years and have been in a longterm relationship for the past several years, but haven't remarried yet.
My girlfriend (non-jw, but raised christian) has made comments similiar to the ones that your wife has made. Like how great it would be to marry a "good christian" man. I am christian, but don't go to church regularly and neither does she. I'm able to take her comments with a grain of salt, because we're not married. I just say things like "well, why don't you go find one" in a joking manner. I figure she's with me because she wants to be, because we're not married. I also figure there are lots of other fish in the sea for me.
But if I was married, and I have been before, I would probably take the comments more seriously. Like "You went through the steps, signed a marraige certificate, said I am the one, and now you want to talk about how great it would be with someone who is a Jehovah's Witness?!"
Still if you confront her on it, it could make you seem insecure. She's with you. If other aspects of your relationship are going fine, I would try to forget about it. If not, I would probably try to talk to her about the other aspects of the relationship. Because in my experience, women say these kinds of things without thinking all the time.
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The Final Nail in the Coffin of your JW Career
by jookbeard ini know there has been countless threads on this, some say the paedophile scandal, others say the blood ban, some say the conduct of their elders, others say the petty rules etc.
but there is usually one thing that seals every one's fate, tips you over the edge,finishes you off.i was fading, very closely to full inactivity, off the book study list, and very sporadic meeting attendance, which took me to the very last time i set foot in my kingdumb hall, this is what happened;.
it was the memorial of 1994, i hadn't set foot in the place for months, but thought a show at the memorial would keep the wife happy and the elders at bay for a bit longer, i drove to the hall being careful not to get there too early(the wife was already there and had saved me a seat) i walked up to my seat about mid way in the hall so a lot could see me, it was packed probably about 200 there, as i sat down ( about 3/4 mins to go) a sister in front of me turned around and said"we haven't seen you in a long time!
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KidKool
Before this generation passes away...
Well, you know the rest.
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Demonic Possesion of Inaminate Objects
by cantleave inthis is a phenonoma often discussed by jw's.
how unique is this idea to jw's?.
anyone got any good stories on this subject?.
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KidKool
I had that fear as a young JW raised to believe such things. Thought I had an encounter at about the age of 8 with a stuffed animal, which my parents promptly threw away.
Many other religions Ive visited do believe in the same thing, like a person has a bad spirit on them and like such things.
Took me a while before I could watch any horror movies after leaving the JW's. But time heals most wounds- especially if you get away from the thing wounding you. So I can say now, I am finally free from fear of all these irrational things, at least to a "normal" level.
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Are Jehovah's Witness men good catches?
by garyneal ini've stated this before on this message board but i was kind of curious about this and wanted to get some feedback from the group.
in particular, the ladies who are either current or former jw's.. about a year or so ago, my wife went with me to a church i was attending at the time.
we then later that morning attended a kh meeting.
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KidKool
Jehovah's Witness men are possibly, but certainly not always, and maybe not even a majority- hyperreligious. However, I have met many people who were like that who were NOT Jehovah's witnesses who are hypereligious and follow a strict ethical code (meaning he might not cheat on you or abuse you, but there are no guarantees in life and people certainly change).
Another point is that religious people definitely do not have a monoply on ethics. Non-religious people often live by an ethical code too. I'm one of them.
A person needs to use judgement in who they date or marry (Strange concept?). A person who has committed a lot of crimes might not be a "good catch" whether they are a Jehovah's Witness now or not.
Women say a lot of things- how great it would be to marry someone who is x, y, or z. Your wife may have just been yanking your chain, so don't worry about it.
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JWs just came to my door and didn't even knock
by hemp lover ini was working in the back room of my house, transcribing an interview with lara logan (she's fascinating), when my dogs started barking at the front door.
i ignored it for 30 seconds, because that's just what they do.
figured it was a cat or the mailman.
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KidKool
That's funny, I wish I had thought of that back then. I just used to knock very very lightly.
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KidKool
Of course I miss friends I grew up with, and family. 8 years without has kind of dulled those feelings though. But I DO NOT miss being a Jehovah's Witness.