disproving the date 1914 as a significant year in bible prophecy is of great importance to some (e.g.
carl o. jonsson).
along with the meticulous details of bible and secular chronology, broadening one's horizons when assessing exactly what this date represents when compared against the 6000 years of human history likewise has merit.
Jonathan dough:
"Thanks for your concern, but I'm not writing to convince him. I'm writing for all the lurkers, faders, the curious and those tempted to fall for the party line of Watchtower reasoning."
Sure, that's fine. But at what point do the lurkers stop reading his drivel?
Villabolo
disproving the date 1914 as a significant year in bible prophecy is of great importance to some (e.g.
carl o. jonsson).
along with the meticulous details of bible and secular chronology, broadening one's horizons when assessing exactly what this date represents when compared against the 6000 years of human history likewise has merit.
DagothUr: "I wonder how they knew who was a virgin and who was not, before they had sex with them."
Dagoth, I can't believe you asked that.
Villabolo
it's one of those , aha!, moments that hits you right after you leave the kh.
if jehovah picked the wt society back in 1919 as his one true christian congregation and then asigned them and only the international bible students the big work of preaching the king and kingdom, at those famous,.
,uh-hum, everyone who heard the life saving message from rutherford's gang was going to be dead in a few years- everyone was going to the grave, not straight to the new system of things.
Moshe:
"He knew everyone who heard the life saving message from Rutherford's gang was going to be dead in a few years- everyone was going to the grave, not straight to the New System of things. Just try and get a JW to explain that paradox."
Moshe, it's been a while snce you've used Watchtower logic, hasn't it ?
Let me elaborate on what Alfred said.
Jesus started sloooowly, nurturing and growing his organization bit by bit. They could only save enough souls, for the time being, to keep their organization well staffed. The rest who croaked and will cotinue to drop dead, throughout the (redefined) eternally elastic "Generation", will simply pop out of the ground after Armageddon? Isn't that wonderful?
Villabolo
disproving the date 1914 as a significant year in bible prophecy is of great importance to some (e.g.
carl o. jonsson).
along with the meticulous details of bible and secular chronology, broadening one's horizons when assessing exactly what this date represents when compared against the 6000 years of human history likewise has merit.
Puuuhleeese!
Spade's insanity will never die!
Villabolo
disproving the date 1914 as a significant year in bible prophecy is of great importance to some (e.g.
carl o. jonsson).
along with the meticulous details of bible and secular chronology, broadening one's horizons when assessing exactly what this date represents when compared against the 6000 years of human history likewise has merit.
Jonathan, I applaud your persistence but please give up on this guy. Spade is absolutely impenetrable to reason. It's not about the factual or the logical with people like him/her. It's about the psychological.
He/she has absolutely no curiosity about the issue and is intellectually bankrupt. Anyone who engages in circular reasoning, like Spade does, is not a person who can be debated in goodwill.
The only reason I, and I'm sure Outlaw, keep posting our ridicule is because other posters are trying to engage him seriously. I simply want to remind him that he's not worthy of being taken seriously.
Villabolo
http://www.libsandcons.com/1/post/2011/03/islamophobia-is-unpatriotic.html.
they are abused with calls of go home, and terrorist, little children are subjected to it as well.
a villa park councilwoman named deborah pauly echoes the rhetoric of pamela geller and even calls for the murder of participants (who she labels terrorists) at the charity event.
Glander: "How many innocent people have these Christian extremeists murdered?"
These Christian extremists do not have the power YET to have a major impact on this nation. But it's simply a matter of time. You can get a sense of that by the following list:
Villabolo
http://www.libsandcons.com/1/post/2011/03/islamophobia-is-unpatriotic.html.
they are abused with calls of go home, and terrorist, little children are subjected to it as well.
a villa park councilwoman named deborah pauly echoes the rhetoric of pamela geller and even calls for the murder of participants (who she labels terrorists) at the charity event.
Myelaine:
"islam seems to have gobbled up every culture in its path, do we want to wait until we are intimidated before we "push back" against it? or should we stand up for our sons before the situation is critical?...there comes a time, doesn't there, that one has to BE patriotic or risk losing forever that which we love."
Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds. Do you need me to rattle off a list of cultures which are not one bit influenced by Islam or Muslims?
"This is contrasted with the governments of Christian nations who have abandoned similar dramatic or violent parables of law as set out in the Bible, instead extracting and developing a relatively un-invasive rule of law."
Have you ever heard of Christian Reconstructionism (Dominionism)? As an actual movement it is small but it has spread its ideological tentacles throughout fundamentalist Chrisitianity. Palin's husband was a member of a Reconstructionism.
Villabolo
http://www.libsandcons.com/1/post/2011/03/islamophobia-is-unpatriotic.html.
they are abused with calls of go home, and terrorist, little children are subjected to it as well.
a villa park councilwoman named deborah pauly echoes the rhetoric of pamela geller and even calls for the murder of participants (who she labels terrorists) at the charity event.
Sam Whiskey:
"For those of you that have not yet been attacked by this psycopath, get ready to laugh your butt off. This guy is FREE entertainment."
And of course, Sam has nothing to say about the specific argument given.
Villabolo
this is a great link and mentions things we know about, all to well.. http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/06/competition-for-when-the-world-will-end/?hpt=c2.
my favorite part, the term .... cognitive dissonance - the mental turmoil provoked by holding contradictory ideas simultaneously.
enjoy, i love who the jehovah's witnesses are grouped with.
According to slide #13, Camping had made a previous prediction that the world would end on September 6, 1994. It's been claimed that his prediction wasn't absolute, since his book 1994? had a question mark on the title.
Even though he made strong statements about the year 1994, Camping did weasel out by saying that the dates were not absolute
Villabolo
http://www.libsandcons.com/1/post/2011/03/islamophobia-is-unpatriotic.html.
they are abused with calls of go home, and terrorist, little children are subjected to it as well.
a villa park councilwoman named deborah pauly echoes the rhetoric of pamela geller and even calls for the murder of participants (who she labels terrorists) at the charity event.
Myeaine:
the religion of islam was drawn out of the koran and its sharia law. islam IS submission to THAT theocratic government set out in the koran.
islam does not VALUE the FRUITS of american democracy.
if you read the "preface" of the koran you will read that islam desires to enable ITS theocracy worldwide.
Myelaine, I can only give you the same response that I gave Nathan Natas. Judaism is founded on the Old Testament and Christianity is founded on the New Testament. You know what thy have to say about the world and non believers, therefore you have no moral right to criticize ALL Muslims for what the Koran says without criticizing ALL Jews and Christians based on what their "holy" Bible has to say.
You seem to have double standards in applyig one form of condemnation to some but not to others. Here we go again:
Old Testament:
Now condemn all Jews!
New Testament:
15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. Mark 16:15,16--New International Version
So don't forget
to condemn all Christians
as well for their scriptures!
Villabolo
