considering the way the wbts controls and manipulates people in its mental grip, is it logical to compare it to the the infamous german nazi party?
is this an exageration?
what parallel can be drawn between the two?
"It is a serious exaggeration."
"If you were in Israel (ancient) you would be stoned"
That is what a member of my Judicial Commitee told me. Bottom line the only reason the JWs don't go around executing people as well as waging wars is because they know damn well they won't get away with it. However, if they were to have sovereign territory in which to fulfill their morbid fantasies they would and we'd both be dead.
considering the way the wbts controls and manipulates people in its mental grip, is it logical to compare it to the the infamous german nazi party?
is this an exageration?
what parallel can be drawn between the two?
They are religious nazis. That is the phrase I've always used when describing the JWs to those unfamiliar with them. Unfortunately those people think you are exagerating. Some things just have to be experienced directly since words alone won't suffice.
hmm?.
i don't hate religion, personally.
it may sound like i hate it on this forum, but nothing could be farther from the truth.
Humanity has been inclined towards religion for tens of thousands of years. Those prehistoric cave paintings were religious, they worshiped nature.
Religion is just a way of explaining the world around you and your place in it. Unfortunately humanity degenerated when it became civilized and so did its religions.
I despise the current religions. Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism have nothing to do with the real world. A true religion celebrates the natural world and our place in it. Unfortunately the natural world no longer exists and we have to deal with these religions and their false promise of salvation from the miseries we have brought upon ourselves.
"we cannot take part in any modern version of idolatry-be it worshipful gestures toward an image or symbol or the imputing of salvation to a person or an organization.
" the watchtower, 11/1/1990, p. 26. .
and from the very same month and year .
I love Big Brother! I love Big Brother! I LOVE BIG BROTHER!
1984 by George Orwell.
I highly recommend that everyone here read it if they have not already done so. I would also suggest that we offer that book to JWs. Maybe they will accept a non "apostate" book. The parallels between that book and the JWs will cause them a lot of cognitive dissonance.
"I'm sorry the Watchtower knocked the commonsense out of you."
Commonsense gave us flat earths.
Once upon a time,
before all time,
the Universe gave birth to herself.
Nature is what nature does. Now please tell me what is so "intelligent" about supernovas frying planets which may be teeming with life or those same planets being sucked up by "Jehovah's" vacuum cleaners, black holes. Dying lonely deaths on a global scale might not shock you -I'm referring to animals-that could be rationalized, but asteroids randomly smashing planets and ruining their whole ecology for the next few millions years is not my idea of intelligence. Psycopathology yes but not intelligence.
And plain idiocy is such intelligence when you look at the wings of flightless birds like the ostrich, the useless toes of horses on the side of the obviously useful hoof.
If by some Cosmic miracle it should happen, we, humanity and other extraterrestrial beings with our intelligence and compassion should evolve into godless angels and turn the Universe into a paradise. Death to Jehovah, long live the Cosmos!
not paedophilia - as much as that must be dealt with.
not blood, shunning, corruption, failed prophecy, bunked chronology, the internet or u.n type scandals.. the biggest issue/threat the watchtower faces is authority.. hold up any other issue before a true jw and the shutters come down.
because they have listened to 'authority'.
Babel on by putting atheists and agnostics in the same lump as "Satan worshippers you are revealing that you have the same way of thinking as the JWs.
Let me put it this way. The biggest issue/ threat to the the Bible is it's authority. A supposed authority of long dead spiritless men. It is riddled with internal inconsistencies like the WT. It is full of vindictiveness and hate toward those who don't see things it's way. What happens when it's authority is questioned?
Many in the JWs have turned agnostic or atheist because they weren't about to use a different standard when dealing with the Bible as when they dealt with the WTs.
... a small thrill from demonstrating to jws how similar they are to the catholics and other religions they hypocritically abhor?
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"Then I asked her if that excused the catholics for how they handled pedophile priests."
Brilliant Judo move Asphere!
not paedophilia - as much as that must be dealt with.
not blood, shunning, corruption, failed prophecy, bunked chronology, the internet or u.n type scandals.. the biggest issue/threat the watchtower faces is authority.. hold up any other issue before a true jw and the shutters come down.
because they have listened to 'authority'.
Look at what J Rutherford did during those long years of his power struggle. Three quarters of the Bible Students left but they still survived. In my opinion once you pass a certain number of members the religion is self perpetuating. Perhaps there are examples of religions that faded away for whatever reason but once you get to WTS size the most that could happen is shrinkage and or fragmentation.
by the same token, couldn't any religion use the same argument to excuse their flaws and atrocities?
they are, after all, run by "imperfect" men as well.
i guess that means they're actually inspired of god too, but simply run by imperfect men who make mistakes..
The Nazis were imperfect men. Bottom line, calling something evil imperfect is false humility which is in itself a form of arrogance. The WTS is not "imperfect" it is depraved.
