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  Saw my JW father the other day

  by Paralipomenon in

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  i'm still a bit torn on the issue of associating with my parents.

  they have made absolutely no effort to keep in touch and usually any contact results in a generic witness email reply.. i have been at the point that i really don't need or care for their influence in my life for a while but i keep flipping back and forth between cutting off all contact and being the bigger person and at least give them updates.. so, in light of their recent aniversary, i went to the store and tried to pick them out a card.

  i never really realized how difficult that is if you're looking for a card to actually mean what you say.. unfortunately i didn't find a card that said "sorry you two are trapped in a loveless marriage and i could really care less about your opinions" so i settled for the least bit sappy i could find.. i put the kid's school pictures in and while out running errands dropped it off.

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  "Sometimes being the 'bigger person' really sucks."

  Yep.

  It is really sad that they are missing out on their grand-childrens lives. Same thing happened on my side. No way that will ever be reclaimed.
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  Sad Family News.....

  by AK - Jeff in

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  on friday morning, sometime before noon, my former son-in-law [for lack of better term, for he and my daughter were never married], father and custodial parent of my middle granddaughter, was found dead of an overdose of pain-medication.

  perhaps oxycontin, though i am unsure of the specific drug at the moment.. he was enduring pain from an accident with his moped [yes, he was lifetime license removed for drinking] that occurred a year or so back.

  his shoulder was injured and he had a surgery scheduled soon.

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  Very sad news. It sounds like you are a wonderful grand-dad and will offer your grandchildren a better life. Hugs.
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  Gunman holding Dicovery Channel hostage

  by B-Rock in

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  the headquarters of discovery communications in silver spring, md.

  is under lockdown after a gunman entered the building and took hostages.

  the man is wearing or carrying an explosive device.

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  VIII

  A JW? Not a Palin supporter?

  So, should JWs be banned from owning guns due to this?
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  Will I ever break free from primitive JW thinking?

  by Mad Sweeney in

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  i had an extremely disturbing thought this morning.

  here's the story (or "experience" for jw readers):.

  all week i had been waiting for pay day.

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  VIII

  BTW, I'd ignore hoser, this is not about money. It's about thought control and cult exiting.
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  Will I ever break free from primitive JW thinking?

  by Mad Sweeney in

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  i had an extremely disturbing thought this morning.

  here's the story (or "experience" for jw readers):.

  all week i had been waiting for pay day.

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  VIII

  (Groan)

  No, you are certainly not alone. No matter how long you're out, it still comes back. Mine mainly from hearing from relatives and Mom how the system is ending and how "I'll pray to Jehovah for you" no matter how small the issue.

  I have had some thoughts this week, mainly from my Mom's non-stop barrage of phone calls and a thought of praying to Jehovah popped in momentarily. Just momentarily.

  I've been out a long time, so, no, I don't think it will go away for a long time, unfortunately. Little things set it off for me.
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  How to tell my mom im moving out?? Need advice please

  by cia112 in

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  well i'm 22 years old, still in college, i live with my mom but she is driving me crazy with her jw nonsense, ive been dealing with it all my life and i really cant take anymore of this, i have a boyfriend, non jw (which my mom hates) and i could barely see him because she doesnt let me go out!

  we have 4 years together and i really dont want to keep on like this, im not baptized but i am a publisher.... .

  so the thing is, i want to move out with my boyfriend but i have no idea how to break the news to her, she drives me nuts but shes my mother and i love her, i dont want to hurt her but enough is enough...she's probably going to disown me, but i really just want to be happy already...so does anybody have any ideas what i can do?.

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  I totally concur with what Band just stated.

  Feminism is not a dirty word. Being self-sufficient, especially today, with the odds a marriage will fail, is critical. You need to learn to be independent and learn how to pay bills, how to set up a utility, how to shop, how to repair things, how to do all the things you more than likely will be doing on your own some day.

  And you need to finish college. An education from college should be your first goal, then a job. Then marriage and children. Being dependent on someone leaves you vulnerable to abuse.

  Please read people's comments and perhaps talk to a counselor at school. Or a trusted advisor.
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  Namby-Pambyland boo hoo Drama Queen

  by brotherdan in

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  alright guys,.

  i'm going to suck up my pride, apologize to those that i offended, promise to not be insulting anymore, and let bygones be bygones.

  i know that there will be people here that will make fun of me coming back after such a dramatic exit (i.e.

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  Welcome back BD!

  This place is very helpful. I lurked for a long time before I posted and now read a lot more than I post. The info here is priceless.

  VIII, who didn't really mean to call you a Namby-Pambyland boo hoo Drama Queen but likes the thread title.
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  Did You Ever Fink On Another Witness?

  by minimus in

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  did you ever tell the elders that you knew of "wrongdoing" or that you knew a certain person wasn't adhering to the rules?.

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  WT Doctrine: If a JW knows about a gross sin, but does not approach the guilty party or the elders about the matter, Jehovah will kill the person who didn't rat at Armageddon.

  This just kills me.

  A *Gross Sin*. They classify everything as a gross sin. Again, how could anyone with any clarity of mind, not see this as crazy?

  Oh, I have an answer: CULT.

  I know, I know, let it go.

  I'm trying. Really.
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  Did You Ever Fink On Another Witness?

  by minimus in

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  did you ever tell the elders that you knew of "wrongdoing" or that you knew a certain person wasn't adhering to the rules?.

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  I have thought about it-a lot.

  That is why I'm on this board.

  Now, these same self-righteous POS are liberal, abortion loving, atheists, as Ex-JWs. W-T-F?

  Seriously, I am as liberal as the next Ex-JW, probably more than most. I've done more than my fair share of wild-living. However, I have never, ever deemed myself someone who would *tell on* someone else. For anything short of molestation, rape, murder, etc. Crimes, not morals. Make sense?

  I've seen first hand the absolute horrific damage that DFing does to someone. My mom was thisclose to suicide while DFd.

  When someone is willing to tell on someone for something like dancing to close or they *think* Brother X was tipsy at a wedding, I am just amazed that now they turn on the news and believe anything they hear. Amazed.

  Telling on someone (for such minor infractions) to gain favor with the Elders or with Jehovah is so crazy it is beyond comprehension. I knew that when I was 15. I knew that. How can an adult not see that?
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  Did You Ever Fink On Another Witness?

  by minimus in

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  did you ever tell the elders that you knew of "wrongdoing" or that you knew a certain person wasn't adhering to the rules?.

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  Finking on yourself is worse.

  Uh, yeah. She wanted to clear her conscience. I told her since she had told me, wasn't that good enough? She said that since they were like Priests, she would feel better. And, since she had only done *it* once, she would never be DFd, she'd be privately reproved. I begged, I pleaded etc. She insisted that the Brothers would be fair.

  Well DUH!!

  She was promply DFd and this was in the days of reading it from the platform and the whole "Sister X is DFd for Conduct Unbecoming a Christian". They pretty much said she committed fornication!

  We were at the KH, everyone stopped, turned, looked stared, glared and we just sat there. It was painful. At the end of the meeting everyone ignored us. Two nights before my BFF Kathy was speaking to me, that night, nada. She looked right through me.

  None of my relatives would speak to me. Or her. Her sisters cut her off. Everyone cut us off.

  I recall people getting *Finked* on others for the most ridiculous stuff-like listed above: Brother Z was drunk!

  Who the Funk made any of you the alcohol police? Who made any of you the dancing too fast police?

  Fucking crazy mind-controlled, brain-washed idiots, that's who.

  Anyone who did is a self-righteous hypocrite. IMO.