How come the 22nd of July's not Pi Day?
We Australians would write it as 22/7...
I'm also looking forward to Star Wars Day. It's on May the Fourth.
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How come the 22nd of July's not Pi Day?
We Australians would write it as 22/7...
I'm also looking forward to Star Wars Day. It's on May the Fourth.
firstly....i have a problem here and have for years.
i am prob part of a big jw club based on how all my old friends drink.
but nightly i self medicate (nice term for gettin seriously buzzed to drunk).
shamus100 wrote: >>You can talk all you want about an addiction problem, but when it comes right down to it, you need to get your life in order and just do it.
Sounds so awfully simple and cold-hearted, doesn't it? I wish it was so simple.
That's what worked for me. As you say s100, it's not at all easy. But it is possible.
I tried addiction therapy until I realised that I liked getting wasted. It was the only time that life didn't hurt so bad. But it's a pretty shitty way of existing and in the long run it just contributes to the rest of your problems. Drinking so much that you wake up in the garden covered in frost with no idea how you got there is not good!
I also realised that no one else can tell me how to be me. It's entirely up to me to work it for myself.
So I decided one day, about 7 years ago, that I was done with that way of life. And mostly I am. I still drink socially with friends, but I don't get smashed. I go weeks and months at a time without touching a drop.
It's a lot cheaper too!
the po comes to see me and talks round the houses trying to find out what my problem is.. so i tell him "look its something i have to sort out for myself and i dont want to destroy your faith and make you start questioning so id rather not tell you".
he already knew cos the first elder went to his house the second he left mine and told him about [what i thought was a private conversation between mates,] my issues.. so he proceeds to tell me a story of a brother he knows who was always very studious and knowledgable about all prophecies and the details of our beliefs.. well the guy suddenly stopped attending meetings last year, dont know why but the po seemed pretty upset about it as he was an old friend.. so he says " i said to him, but john, where will you go now on sunday afternoons,!
and really wary where else will you go?".
Let's see:
The Pub is good.
Going to the footy is good.
Taking your kids:
- out for a picnic
- to sporting event
- to a gallery
- to an exhibition
- to a museum
- to the zoo
- to a movie
- out fishing
- for a drive
- for a hike
- for a bike ride
- out in a boat
- to the beach (or river /lake)
Just a few suggestions.
Next time the PO asks you can tell him.
Or just tell him to PO!
there is an email doing the rounds regarding jw experiences related to the horrific bushfires that recently killed hundreds of people in australia.. ----------------------------------.
received: sunday, 1 march, 2009, 3:54 pm .
as quite a number in our circuit actually endured the horrors of black saturday, our do called out the names of all the congregations represented and asked for a show of hands.
>>That settled it for everyone. It's nice to know how well we are regarded.
They claim to be no part of the world, and yet their words belie that claim. Many of these sort of "experiences" reveal a desperate need by the average jw to be well regarded by their communities.
Pathetic really.
i have asked this question before and i was told by jw's that it is "inappropriate, apostate, beyond our thinking, stupid", etc, etc,.... can anyone atleast give half an answer to this question?.
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african gb member.
>>tempts them to SIN (EITHER THROUGH SEX OR THE FRUIT...)
Maybe it was sex with fruit...
there is an email doing the rounds regarding jw experiences related to the horrific bushfires that recently killed hundreds of people in australia.. ----------------------------------.
received: sunday, 1 march, 2009, 3:54 pm .
as quite a number in our circuit actually endured the horrors of black saturday, our do called out the names of all the congregations represented and asked for a show of hands.
>> However they were halted by the Police road block and not allowed to proceed. But the brothers know their territory - they turned away and tried to gain access another way!
Vomitous. Truly barf-worthy.
It's dickheads like these that put the firefighters and emergency-services personnel at risk. They should be charged.
what are your thoughts on the 2012 theory regarding the end of the world.
we have read recently about the financial crisis being an early sign of this end.
id like to know what you fellow brothers and sisters think of this.
The sun being at the center of the galaxy may have some significance that we are not aware of.
Actually, the sun is only at the centre of the Solar System, which is less than a mere pin prick on one of the outer arms of the Milky Way Galaxy. The Milky Way itself is only one of trillions of galaxies all moving around the universe at incredible speed.
So there's probably not much significance there at all.
Or as Monty Python so elegantly put it:
Spoken: Whenever life gets you down Mrs. Brown,
And things seem hard or tough,
And people are stupid, obnoxious or daft
And you feel that you've had quite enough...
Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour,
That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned,
A sun that is the source of all our power.
The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see
Are moving at a million miles a day
In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour,
Of the galaxy we call the 'Milky Way'.
Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars.
It's a hundred thousand light years side to side.
It bulges in the middle, sixteen thousand light years thick,
But out by us it's just three thousand light years wide.
We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point.
We go round every two hundred million years,
And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.
The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding
In all of the directions it can whizz
As fast as it can go, the speed of light, you know,
Twelve million miles a minute and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.
just thought i would introduce myself, as it seems a bit rude not to.
this, in a nut shell, is my story.. i was a third generation witness and i did all the normal stuff we were expected to do.
left school early, pioneered, went to bethel, ms and all that palava.
Thank you all for your kind thoughts and the warm welcome.
Purps: regarding my name - it's just a name I made up, nothing special as far as I know.
just thought i would introduce myself, as it seems a bit rude not to.
this, in a nut shell, is my story.. i was a third generation witness and i did all the normal stuff we were expected to do.
left school early, pioneered, went to bethel, ms and all that palava.
Just thought I would introduce myself, as it seems a bit rude not to. This, in a nut shell, is my story.
I was a third generation witness and I did all the normal stuff we were expected to do. Left school early, pioneered, went to bethel, MS and all that palava. My family was tight-knit and very close, with me and my two sisters all pioneering together back in the mid eighties. I was in the Australian bethel from 1986-1989. I left bethel to get married to a hot pioneer chick and we were married for 10 years.
I had a number of nagging doubts but I was a big-shot in the local cong so i just buried them all at the back of mind, soaking up the adulation of the lesser members (what a knob I must have been!).
During the early nineties, I signed up for one of those book-of-the-month clubs where they send you a new book each month at a discount rate. All was going well for me until one particular month they sent me biography of Charles Darwin. I was going to send it back, but decided to have a quick look at it, maybe read a couple of pages just to see how wrong it all was.
It was the turning point of my life.
I quickly became engrossed in it. Suddenly I understood evolution. It made perfect logical sense. I instantly realised that Darwinian evolution was the sole reason that there is life on earth. I still remember the thrill of realising that I was not beholden to an arbitrary, jealous arsehole of a god.
About this time my wife and I moved way out into the country, ostensibly to where the need was greater. However, I simply dropped out. I was reappointed as an MS but only gave one talk and then I gave up going to meetings altogether. I had already given up on door-knocking. My wife also stopped attending meetings regularly and started just making up her report card so she wouldn't be hassled by the elders. I thought that was a pretty cool idea. Why hadn't we always done that?
But then our families got involved. They descended on us like plagues trying to save us. When they realised they couldn't change my mind they started the emotional blackmail and the nastiness. And that's when the pain started. Among much else, I remember my sister telling me that she wished that I had cancer rather then leave the truth. That stung! Still does. It was one of the last things that she said to me before she cut me off. My brother rang me up and said that I was not to come to his wedding. My other sister left my house never to speak to me again.
It was such a shock. These people who I had most loved and valued all my life and who loved and respected me, were now hurting me and abusing me in the most accutely painful manner possible. I took it pretty badly. I suffered a severe depressive illness. I blamed myself for hurting them so badly, for letting them down. I spiralled down into a drug and alchohol problem and ended up in a pretty bad way. I lost everything including my marriage.
It took me about 5 years to get over about 50% of the hurt. And about another 10 years to get over 50% of the remainder. I don't think I will ever get over it entirely. It took me years just to admit to someone that I used to be jw, so embarrassed and ashamed was I of my past. I felt it was a character flaw, evidence of some intrinsic weakness to allow myself to have been so severely and profoundly mislead.
I decided that education was the thing for me. So I went back and completed high school and then went to university. I have now completed two degrees, one in the arts and one in science majoring in evolutionary biology. I have travelled the world extensively. I have a new partner who supports and loves me and even respects me for being true to myself.
15 years on and still hurts a bit, although not every day, and even then, no where as much as it used to.
Thanks for reading my story.
nine months ago, my whole world was rocked sideways and upside down!!
it all started with a search on the internet about jw's and 1975. little did i know what i was going to see when i came on here-jwn and freeminds.org.
needless to say, i was totally devastated to learn how that the "truth" was not really the truth.
Good on you QE.
Good luck and all the best with your new direction.
The world is great place. And ain't Christmas and birthday's a whole lotta fun?!!