Posts by ianao

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The writing is on the wall the pale horse is here.

by spectromize in

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when you look at the news headlines concerning the many out of control pestilences, i can't help but think of the scripture in revelation chapter 6 verse 8, what do you all think about this subject?

ianao

Spiritual discussion is not limited to the research board.

You know as well as I do Jr that you are playing teacher, and you are trying to designate Spectromize as the pupil. Your form of "spiritual discussion" always ends up being an allusion to your new group's prophetic notions, AND YOU KNOW IT! These "prophetic discussions" are usually discussed by whom? Folks who are researching the Bible.

I did not claim any limits nor moderator status. I said: "That's what the Bible Research forum is for" and I still mean just that. You will have less of what you call "foolishes" and more on-topic responses if you post them in areas where people generally interested in those things tend to look.

I don't think Simon is stupid so I don't think he categorized the postings for nothing. The courtesy is there. Why not take advantage of it?

Spec asked what people thought about the subject and that's what folks are posting. I KNEW from your previous posts that you were going to try and turn a thread asking for other's opinions into another lesson of differing biblical interpretation. THIS is why I say "That's what the Bible Research forum is for". Because I personally tire of seeing you, bjc2012, mds, and logical try to cram your beliefs down other people's throats. Others state opinions, you state "truth" as absolute and uncompromising as the GB of JWs do.

You REALLY need to get a website for yourselves. At least that way you can go around and encourage people to drop by and check it out.

But then again, I guess it's all you can do to stay on a forum like this, using the ability to speak freely to your advantage. Perhaps, just like the GB, you can only hoodwink people into believing your message. Then again, I guess that isn't your fault either. Looks like you just fell for it.

Edited by - ianao on 27 February 2001 14:6:10

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The writing is on the wall the pale horse is here.

by spectromize in

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friends

when you look at the news headlines concerning the many out of control pestilences, i can't help but think of the scripture in revelation chapter 6 verse 8, what do you all think about this subject?

ianao

hey waiting.

No one, except Friend, ever insisted on proper forum decor. Not Coffee House Style, you know. Hard to share a cup of coffee and chat when we insist others "go to their room."

Then I am pleased to be the second. Most of the folks who gripe about non-spiritual discussions always point to the trivial posts in the Main forum. I for one, would rather have a spiritual discussion in Bible Reseach than a general area such as this one.

I personally don't think Simon visioned those rigid rules.

I agree with you totally, but others who are griping about the lack of spirituality in discussions should learn to adjust to the lack of interest from folks prodding around the Main area for more broadly based subjects.

Two ways to correct this situation:

#1. CONTROL responders and encourage them to respond only when generally interested in the topic.

#2. CONTROL posters and encourage them to post in areas where the discussions fit the category of interest.

Since self-control is easier than group control I personally prefer option #2. Otherwise, differing categories of discussion are meaningless.

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Is There Something Sinister At The KH?

by Englishman in

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ever since i departed the jw`s, i have pooh - pooh`d the idea of satan, devils, demons, witches and warlocks and laughed at jw paranoia re smurfs and demonised objects etc etc.. just recently, i have had some thoughts as to why jw`s are so obsessive about this subject, suppose that:.

what if the jw religion were itself of satanic origin?

consider the facts:.

ianao

e-mail, please.

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Is There Something Sinister At The KH?

by Englishman in

jw
friends

ever since i departed the jw`s, i have pooh - pooh`d the idea of satan, devils, demons, witches and warlocks and laughed at jw paranoia re smurfs and demonised objects etc etc.. just recently, i have had some thoughts as to why jw`s are so obsessive about this subject, suppose that:.

what if the jw religion were itself of satanic origin?

consider the facts:.

ianao

I've read some about how the WTS is connected to Free Masonry and the Illuminati. Very interesting subject.

TR, check your e-mail. Please read and respond.

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Is There Something Sinister At The KH?

by Englishman in

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friends

ever since i departed the jw`s, i have pooh - pooh`d the idea of satan, devils, demons, witches and warlocks and laughed at jw paranoia re smurfs and demonised objects etc etc.. just recently, i have had some thoughts as to why jw`s are so obsessive about this subject, suppose that:.

what if the jw religion were itself of satanic origin?

consider the facts:.

ianao

Hello joelbear (pleased to meet you):

Fascinating post. As a witness I regularly had demonic dreams. Theses dreams ended about 3 years after I left. So, was I freed from the demons, or did the demons just leave me alone after they got me.

My personal take, is that the "demons" left you alone, because you stopped worrying about them constantly. So in a way, 3 years after you left, your own "demons" DID leave you alone, not because they "got" you, but because YOU "forgot" them.

Just my opinion...

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Don't they need the Holy Spirit?

by ozziepost in

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you may always have believed that the preaching work was directed by jesus, who in his parting words to his disciples said: .

"all authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.

go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things i have commanded you.

ianao

congratulations ozzie, you've just found a MAJOR FLAW in the WTS' class system.

Now, what will be interesting to see is how the society will go about getting the R&F to accept that they need no mediator.

Kind of makes the memorial pointless, doesn't it?

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The writing is on the wall the pale horse is here.

by spectromize in

jw
friends

when you look at the news headlines concerning the many out of control pestilences, i can't help but think of the scripture in revelation chapter 6 verse 8, what do you all think about this subject?

ianao

I have to give it to you. You know how to get a spiritual discussion started. Rarely, do we see such indebt spiritual interest here.

That's what the Bible Research forum is for.

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Laughter Is The Best Medicine

by somebody in

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1898 "god .. evidently has been a respecter of races, and has specially blessed and favored certain branches of the aryan race in europe and america.. the white race has been more abundantly blessed with the light of the gospel than others .. the elect church will probably be composed chiefly of the highly favored white race.." {evol 30-1}.

1900 "there are probably as many as a hundred colored brethren on the watch tower lists, some of them very clear in the truth, and very earnest in its service, financially and other-wise .. [but they are not allowed to participate in the "pioneer work" as] although we have received letters from several of these, who had intended engaging in the volunteer work, expressing surprise that in the call for volunteers in the march 1, 1900 issue we restricted the inquiry to white protestant churches.

.. the reason is that so far as we are able to judge, colored people have less education than whites - many of them quite insufficient to permit them to profit by such reading as we have to give forth.

ianao

ROTFLMAO X 10

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The Poor JW Children

by larc in

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the children.

there are many things that could be changed, and even though i would never go back, i think there are some very basic changes they could make in their child rearing practices, simple changes that would make a big difference in their society.. 1. don't force small children to sit for two hours in a chair.. this was discussed at length on the thread about slapping children at the kingdom hall.. 2. don't bring children to meetings where the subject has to do with adult sexual practices.. 3. don't tell teenagers that they can't ask someone out for a date unless marriage is on their mind.. 4. don't tell them that they are not special, that they have to humble themselves and be like everyone else.. 5. don't tell them they have to get good grades through high school as a reflection of what jehovah has given them and then tell them they can't go to college when they graduate from high school at the top of their class.. 6. don't tell your wordly neighbors that you give your children presents all through the year, but not on their birthday, when they have never seen a special gift wrapped present in their life.. 7. don't expect a shy child to enjoy going from door to door and don't expect an extroverted, lively child to sit still at meetings.. 8. don't tell an inquiring child not to ask questions and don't tell them not to read interesting books.. 9. don't surprised if you don't change your ways that your children will leave you, even though they love you.

ianao

Larc,

Great ideals Larc. Every change the society makes is another flip-flop for opposers to gripe about, so I can't see things changing without legal pressures. If this is how you were raised, then I commend you for breaking from your mental/spiritual bonds.

Don't tell teenagers that they can't ask someone out for a date unless marriage is on their mind.

I'm assuming that the reasoning behind this is that "God's people" are happy creatures and compatibility is a sure thing? The whole point of a DATE is to let the couple determine compatibility. Heck, why not throw out dating and have on-the-spot proposals?

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Who's to blame?

by ozziepost in

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when viv mouritz , former branch coordinator in australia, addressed the special meeting of sydney and surrounding area congregations at the superdome last weekend, he blamed the young witnesses who were leaving "the truth" for the drop in numbers in australia.. at the service meeting this week in one sydney congregation it was announced by a bethel elder that the elders have been told (as if they didn't know already!

) that 2,000 have left "the truth" in the past two years in australia.

this typical congregation of 120 publishers has lost 19 inactive since 1999.. the march 2001 issue of kingdom ministry (australian edition) gives the number of publishers for december as 58,426, pioneers 3,315 and 19 baptized.. in dec '98 there were 58,706 pubs,and in dec '99 there were 58,000.. with 1,600-1,800 being baptized each year, there is indeeed a 2,000 shortfall.. so, who's to blame?

ianao

Like MDS has said, how would you know what we have discussed privately in confidence?

It's called chat history in the chat area.

I think he was totally justified in his replies to you.

Of course you would. You are a sick young man who can't think straight.

Please stop using me as a weapon to try and disprove what you cant.

You paranoia is unbecoming. No problem. It's hard to talk sympathetically (sp) to somone who is as indoctrinated as you.

Its not working.

Your right. You won't listen to reason, and nothing can really be done from this computer keyboard anyway to make you get any help. If you want to waste away, it is your perrogotive. (sp?)

You are only making yourselves look stupid.

Another good point. Don't know about larc, but I would have been better off not to give a rat's petute about you anyway. Seems to have brought nothing but grief for me personally.

I dont want to fall out with people on here, but I dont appreciate what you are trying to do.

No you don't. You are sick, and possibly beyond help. It was foolish for me to have ever cared.

I know you care, im grateful for that, but, your actions are not helping OK?[/quote]
Fine. If you want to interpret sympathy for you as a knife in "his majesty's" back, than so be it. I will no longer be a part of your self-destruction.
Edited by - ianao on 24 February 2001 9:9:8