nothing irritates me more than after spending hours showing a dub exactly why they are wrong and why they are false prophets... rather than defend themselves on each subject they all seem to go back to the food at the proper time argument and stop thinking.
its like everything said is wiped clear.. .
anyhoo, i am now left to contest that argument... before i do, i would like to get some of your feedback on good ways to overcome their broken record answer..
Well said, Leaving WT. I can remember being the staunch JW who would not "hear" any anti-witness reasoning. JWs are prepped constantly by being warned that satan would use others to undermine their faith. I remember seeing a copy of the book "30 Years a Slave of the WTB&TS" and being afraid to even pick it up, much less read it!
The person has to be ready to listen to the real truth. Until then, their armor is just to thick to penetrate. It's sad but true.
a friend of mine opened his door to a couple of jw's yesterday and they were inviting him to an assembly in tacoma, wa.
now for the real shocker.....they told him the end was coming the next day and he therefore said, "why would you need the money then if the end is coming tomorrow?".
are jw's now claiming concrete dates when the end will come?
I agree silentone - this one does not have the ring of truth.
hello everyone, my wife and i are currently associated with jw's.
my mom converted when i was 3 years old in 1975, my wife was born after her parents converted.
about 4 years ago however, my wife and i have seen many things that have discouraged us enough to start doing some research into the validity of this religion.
Welcome to both first time posters. You are correct that you will find empathy and support here. The folks here are at various stages of leaving and coming to grips with the fallout that results from leaving the cult. I suggest you read the posts and take some time to figure out what works best for you in your situation since everyone here is coming from a unique set of circumstances. What works for you may be something entirely different or a combination of what others have done.
It is normal to feel confused and betrayed - a feeling that can take quite a while to resolve. As for your wife JWinprotest, my heart goes out to her. She has a double whammy there with a best friend and mom rolled into one. Give her some time to sort things out. Hopefully, she will come to realize the toll this is taking on your little ones and will want to spare them the harm of growing up in an organization based on lies.
Good luck to both of you and keep reading.
i have a problem.
i knew this would come up but what has me questioning myself is where some of my resistance is coming from.. my wife and i have a baby on the way in nov. (a little girl) anyway my mom immediately started applying pressure to me to go back to meeting and of course to attend the convention.
that is not the surprise.
Just to clarify: My daughter tells her father no every time when he invites her to attend. She has told him she thinks it would be cruel to give him false hope and therefore will never attend.
i have a problem.
i knew this would come up but what has me questioning myself is where some of my resistance is coming from.. my wife and i have a baby on the way in nov. (a little girl) anyway my mom immediately started applying pressure to me to go back to meeting and of course to attend the convention.
that is not the surprise.
This is not an easy situation for sure, but I will share how one of my kids handles this with her elder father. I faded first, then one by one the three girls did the same. (We have been divorced for many years) Once in a while he will invite her for a talk he is giving at the KH or a convention. She tells him that honestly, she loves to hear him speak, but she would only go to please him. She tells him she has no interest in JW anymore and she thinks it is cruel to give him false hope that she will ever return to the org. He still asks, but she is firm in telling him that she will not attend.
As others have already said, no one knows your family like you do, but it does seem more honest to simply say no and stay away. You have your own family now, with a child on the way. My advice is to focus on them and let the JW relatives figure out how to deal with their own feelings about the whole thing. Don't let them use emotional blackmail to push you into something you don't want to do.
hi i'm dearone i have been reading here for quite some time.
presently am an active witness in good standing with two teenage daughters.
what originally brought me her was disillusion with the lack of love i experienced in the congregations i have attended.
Welcome to the board. You will find many here who share your experiences and who will offer you their support.
please folks, there are not that many real jw's on this site who express their opinion, so try not to be so negative against the poster as i sometimes read.
you can dispute what they say all you want and you should if you disagree, but we should not look as if it's something personal when we reply.. i know many have been hurt by the society and i myself am angry that i wasted my 20's and early 30's with this organization, but none of the "angry" taunts and comments i received then are what led me out.
what did was reasoning and logic and any who apply it and really think about it, will eventually come to their senses.. don.
Well said Steve
http://www.cbs3springfield.com/news/local/47654212.html
Some 30 years ago I knew a witness in good standing who was a New York State Trooper. Don't know what the policy is now, but he seemed to make it work.
He had a daughter who was molested by an elder in the cong. That guy went to prison for a few years. Wifey waited for him to get out and they stayed together.
I agree with those who say unneccesary negative comments don't serve any useful purpose. Those who work on these projects really do offer their time freely and the completion of the projects in such a short time really is pretty remarkable.
please folks, there are not that many real jw's on this site who express their opinion, so try not to be so negative against the poster as i sometimes read.
you can dispute what they say all you want and you should if you disagree, but we should not look as if it's something personal when we reply.. i know many have been hurt by the society and i myself am angry that i wasted my 20's and early 30's with this organization, but none of the "angry" taunts and comments i received then are what led me out.
what did was reasoning and logic and any who apply it and really think about it, will eventually come to their senses.. don.
Good point Donny, and very tactfully stated.
