This is beyond disgusting. I know plenty of abusive JW husbands, cheating wives and elder husbands and so on. The idea that marrying outside the JWs causes such grief exclusively is so stupid I am almost speechless.
happpyexjw
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JW email making the rounds: He doesn't serve Jehovah
by truthseeker inthis is making the rounds.
he doesn't serve jehovah.
i'd like to tell you a story, about true love at last.
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When I read stuff like this, it makes me think they know EXACTLY what they're doing
by Mickey mouse inthis article must have passed me by before (taken from the "jws and shrinks" thread).
now i understand the mechanics of cult mind control, i can see precisely why they make the statements highlighted in bold.
it does make me question whether the governing body are cognizant of their use of mind control.
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happpyexjw
"It should be mentioned, too, that while psychiatrists and psychologists have professional, postgraduate degrees, many others with no professional qualifications practice without supervision as counselors or therapists. Some individuals have spent a lot of money consulting such unqualified people."
No Kidding!!! And what about those in the KH, such as elders who set themselves up as confessors and advisers? Their armchair, no license psychological practice has harmed countless witnesses who have come to them seeking help! disgusting.
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Guilt trip
by vikesgirl101 ini got to thinking about something that happened a year ago.
i was drifting away from the org, when my sister-in-law told me i was being selfish.
she said she was at aloss for words as to what to tell her 11 year old daughter about me.
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happpyexjw
Sometimes the self-righteousness is really hard to stomach. My ex-sister in law wrote me a letter on my wedding day telling me that I had deeply hurt my entire family. They could forgive my "adultery" (getting married again) but not my turning my back on Jehovah. Her husband was one of the elders who chastised us for having our DF'd daughter's photo on display in our home. Nice folks.
My new hubbby asked me for the address of the body of elders where the SIL lived and he wrote them a letter in which he pointed out how un-Christian her actions were and quoting scriptures from Paul's letters. He sent along a copy of her poison pen letter for them to see. They actually wrote him back and commended his desire to defend me, but also justifying her actions as being motivated by her "love for me." It's hard to believe I lasted 30 years with this org. Freedom is sweet and worth it, no matter the cost.
I love my husband, I think I'll keep him for another 100 years!
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I can't imagine doing THAT in my wildest dreams.....
by AK - Jeff inputting on a three piece suit to spend a 90 degree summer day knocking on doors and trespassing!dragging an entire family, including babies and young children to three or four day meetings in an outdoor stadium, living in a seedy motel room for the week.getting home from work and spending the next six hours cramming for a 'theocratic review', getting the entire family ready to go, gulping down dinner, and speeding off to the hall, and then finally getting home around 11 pm, hurrying off to bed so that everyone could get up for work and school in the morning!going to school to explain to the teachers why little johnny can't color pictures of santa, salute the flag of his country, eat birthday cake with all the other 5 year olds, bow his head when prayer is offered, or exchange valentines with all the cute 5 year old girls in class.
and then explaining with grace why he is not immersed in a cult!well, on and on!
these things were typical of my witness life - now i cannot imagine ever doing such silly things, and especially thinking that somehow they would bring pleasure to my god!.
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happpyexjw
Memories! We attended a convetion at Fenway Park many years ago. I think it was 7 days. Our room was at a dorm at Brandeis University which was quite a distance away. We went to Boston on the train and had to find a commuter train to take us out to Brandeis. We got off the train and had to walk about a mile to the campus with suitcases in hand on a very hot day. Oh, and the best part: I was 8 months pregnant with a 2 1/2 year old in tow. When we finally got on campus, we asked a security guy who was directing traffic where the room was. He looked at the paperwork and said, "That's on the east quadrangle, on the other side of the campus." I think I must have looked like I would pass out, because he suddenly said, "Wait right here. I'm getting off in a few minutes and I'll give you a ride over there." What a nightmare. How foolish to go there and put ourselves through all that!
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food at the proper time defense - help
by song19 innothing irritates me more than after spending hours showing a dub exactly why they are wrong and why they are false prophets... rather than defend themselves on each subject they all seem to go back to the food at the proper time argument and stop thinking.
its like everything said is wiped clear.. .
anyhoo, i am now left to contest that argument... before i do, i would like to get some of your feedback on good ways to overcome their broken record answer..
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happpyexjw
Well said, Leaving WT. I can remember being the staunch JW who would not "hear" any anti-witness reasoning. JWs are prepped constantly by being warned that satan would use others to undermine their faith. I remember seeing a copy of the book "30 Years a Slave of the WTB&TS" and being afraid to even pick it up, much less read it!
The person has to be ready to listen to the real truth. Until then, their armor is just to thick to penetrate. It's sad but true.
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Pseudo Witnesses or changing?????
by REBORNAGAIN ina friend of mine opened his door to a couple of jw's yesterday and they were inviting him to an assembly in tacoma, wa.
now for the real shocker.....they told him the end was coming the next day and he therefore said, "why would you need the money then if the end is coming tomorrow?".
are jw's now claiming concrete dates when the end will come?
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happpyexjw
I agree silentone - this one does not have the ring of truth.
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Long time reader.....first time poster
by JWinprotest inhello everyone, my wife and i are currently associated with jw's.
my mom converted when i was 3 years old in 1975, my wife was born after her parents converted.
about 4 years ago however, my wife and i have seen many things that have discouraged us enough to start doing some research into the validity of this religion.
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happpyexjw
Welcome to both first time posters. You are correct that you will find empathy and support here. The folks here are at various stages of leaving and coming to grips with the fallout that results from leaving the cult. I suggest you read the posts and take some time to figure out what works best for you in your situation since everyone here is coming from a unique set of circumstances. What works for you may be something entirely different or a combination of what others have done.
It is normal to feel confused and betrayed - a feeling that can take quite a while to resolve. As for your wife JWinprotest, my heart goes out to her. She has a double whammy there with a best friend and mom rolled into one. Give her some time to sort things out. Hopefully, she will come to realize the toll this is taking on your little ones and will want to spare them the harm of growing up in an organization based on lies.
Good luck to both of you and keep reading.
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Some help please- advice
by leftbelow ini have a problem.
i knew this would come up but what has me questioning myself is where some of my resistance is coming from.. my wife and i have a baby on the way in nov. (a little girl) anyway my mom immediately started applying pressure to me to go back to meeting and of course to attend the convention.
that is not the surprise.
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happpyexjw
Just to clarify: My daughter tells her father no every time when he invites her to attend. She has told him she thinks it would be cruel to give him false hope and therefore will never attend.
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Some help please- advice
by leftbelow ini have a problem.
i knew this would come up but what has me questioning myself is where some of my resistance is coming from.. my wife and i have a baby on the way in nov. (a little girl) anyway my mom immediately started applying pressure to me to go back to meeting and of course to attend the convention.
that is not the surprise.
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happpyexjw
This is not an easy situation for sure, but I will share how one of my kids handles this with her elder father. I faded first, then one by one the three girls did the same. (We have been divorced for many years) Once in a while he will invite her for a talk he is giving at the KH or a convention. She tells him that honestly, she loves to hear him speak, but she would only go to please him. She tells him she has no interest in JW anymore and she thinks it is cruel to give him false hope that she will ever return to the org. He still asks, but she is firm in telling him that she will not attend.
As others have already said, no one knows your family like you do, but it does seem more honest to simply say no and stay away. You have your own family now, with a child on the way. My advice is to focus on them and let the JW relatives figure out how to deal with their own feelings about the whole thing. Don't let them use emotional blackmail to push you into something you don't want to do.
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Where is the Love
by dearone inhi i'm dearone i have been reading here for quite some time.
presently am an active witness in good standing with two teenage daughters.
what originally brought me her was disillusion with the lack of love i experienced in the congregations i have attended.
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happpyexjw
Welcome to the board. You will find many here who share your experiences and who will offer you their support.