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What are the fruits that we are supposed to recognize?
by bluecanary in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i posted most of this on another thread but i want this to stand alone so i can refer back to it in the future.

one of our resident apologists has given her response on this thread.

you can judge the relative worth of her response for yourself.. "by their fruit you will recognize them.
wantingtruth

Joseph M,
indeed the fruits means the teachings, or God's words ,
or, the way these "prophets" speak in the name of the Lord.
why ?
because Jesus commanded to his true followers
"What I tell you in the darkness, speak ye in the light; and what ye hear in the ear, proclaim upon the house-tops."
and also Peter has told to the "sheperds" 1 Peter 4:
11. If anyone speaks, he should do it as one speaking the very words of God. NIV
both "speaking the very words of God" and obeying them means "worshiping God"
by speaking incorectly "the very words of God" will result in disobeying "the very words of God"
this is sure
rus v.
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Can someone help me?
by losthusband in
1. watchtower
2. bible
hi - i'm new here so go easy on me!.

i've been lurking for a while trying to find out info on the jws.

some questions i have:.
wantingtruth

DEAR SOM,
I like so much your nick
I apreciate so much your decision to serve God
I recommend something to you for read :
here
with cristian love, rus virgil
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Is this really what JWs use to "attract" people?
by losthusband in
1. jw
2. friends
wantingtruth

losthusband
you have a pm click on blue envelope on up - right side of the page next to your nickname
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break away churches of Jehovahs wittnesses?
by highdose in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i have definatly seen in london uk a church with the title of " the real church of the worshippers of jehovah".

is this comman?

does anyone know of anymore?.
wantingtruth

London branch
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break away churches of Jehovahs wittnesses?
by highdose in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i have definatly seen in london uk a church with the title of " the real church of the worshippers of jehovah".

is this comman?

does anyone know of anymore?.
wantingtruth

"i have definatly seen in london UK a church with the title of " the real church of the worshippers of jehovah""
.................................................
may be they are
http://www.mountaingks.org/
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break away churches of Jehovahs wittnesses?
by highdose in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i have definatly seen in london uk a church with the title of " the real church of the worshippers of jehovah".

is this comman?

does anyone know of anymore?.
wantingtruth

I have seen these
http://bashniastrazhy.by.ru/
http://www.amir.ro/indexen.html
http://the-true-jw.oltenia.ro/index.html
and there are more...
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WHERE in the bible does it say each creative day was 6,000 years? Ending around 1975??
by Witness 007 in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
could be 8,000 or 18,000 years long......if to jehovah each "a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years a day.

" 1975 armagedon theory was based on this.

{notice how this theory has since died off} my wife was told off by an elder for giving a talk on "creative days not 24 hours" but not stating each was 6,000 years long...she said she didn't believe it....he backed off and said okay then!
wantingtruth

regarding the lenght of a creative day...
How interesting is the man ! and his mind !
he wants to know all -- even the things God doesn't disclose to us - so I was !

But God has His own way to be : he "conceals" his things !
Proverbs 25 :
2. It is the glory of God to conceal a thing; But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.
The Bible searchers know for sure
--that God created Adam at the end of the sixth creative day
--that immediately (may be some years) after Adam's creation the seventh day begun

-- but never told God to us how long is a creative day !
-- never is told that at the end of the (seventh ) millenium, the seventh creative day is finished also !
I never found that !
All what humans (christians) did , was to suppose and to interpretise by themselves the chronologies (the private interpretation) , also the lenght of the creative day !
No one on earth can say that "the Spirit of truth/of God" helped him to find how long is a creative day !

So , the conclusion is , we merely humans don't know how long is a creative day, it is something what belongs to God .
It can be so long , as to "cover" back the time "found" by scientifical means .

friendly, rus v.
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Did you know the End started in 1799?
by jwfacts in
1. watchtower
2. bible
yes, it sounds crazy doesn't yet.

if a religion went around preaching that today no one would take them seriously, and yet that is what the watchtower used to preach.

"the "time of the end," a period of one hundred and fifteen (115) years, from a.d. 1799 to a.d. 1914, is particularly marked in the scriptures.
wantingtruth

I knew that !
in fact , it is the "way of reasoning" about prophecies which is "responsible" for all the datas ... the same reasoning...
...aplying one year for every day of some "periods" found in Bible ,
and then finding some historical events from where to start to count these numbers of years ,
and we have had "plenty" of datas...
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Questions related to the "70 years"
by Doug Mason in
1. watchtower
2. bible
this post, although about the "70 years", is not about the accuracy or otherwise of dates assigned to that period.

rather, this post is about the nature of the biblical record that we now have.. (1) much discussion, from myself included, centres on the meaning of the declaration at jer 25:11-12. since the lxx and the mt of these verses are different (indeed of the whole of jer 25), does this affect the intent of these verses?

does the fact that differences do exist between these accepted sources diminish the value of these verses for the wts as a key foundation of its existence?.
wantingtruth

Hi DM
I see , the 70 years are related with Babylon / Jer. 29:10 /
and with Jerusalym Zecariah 1:12
If we want to understand this according to Jesus , we have to seek the "spiritually" understand of the issue, because Jesus put/set the "foundation" for this kind of understanding of the prophecies , which is part of the new kind of worshiping God ..with spirit and truth" .
this 70 years period is related with the Great Tribulation which come over the saints in the "latter days" according with the rule given by God Himself to Daniel , and to which Christ Himself was obeing
Daniel 10:
14 Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days; for the vision is yet for many days:
so , we as "seekers" of God's word have to seek for -- who is Daniel's people and when are the "latter days"..
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The Kingdom of God - when in Heaven ? -- according to Jesus
by wantingtruth in
1. watchtower
2. bible
john said "...the truth came through jesus christ" ?

--------the kingdom of god---------- .

"the kingdom of god is near.
wantingtruth

well , I need to repeat the link here