i posted most of this on another thread but i want this to stand alone so i can refer back to it in the future.
one of our resident apologists has given her response on this thread.
you can judge the relative worth of her response for yourself.. "by their fruit you will recognize them.
Hi Joseph ,
I agree with your above statement
only now I realise that you are speaking things correctly
I mean, I did not checked your previous posts on this forum (they are about 1400 )
what do you say regarding this my post ?
friendly,
rus v. from romania
i remember growing up as a dub that everyone was constantly on the look out for what could be the cry of peace and security... then suddenly people just stopped, it stopped being mentioned in talks ... everything.
theories please?.
"And Sudden Destruction will be upon them....."
upon whom ?
the Bible answer : "upon the false christs "
why ?
because they are teaching false teachings in the name of God and keep saying that only so (by obeing them) the men/people will have peace with God !
--- absolutely false !
so, they deserve destruction from God's hand !
rus v.
i posted most of this on another thread but i want this to stand alone so i can refer back to it in the future.
one of our resident apologists has given her response on this thread.
you can judge the relative worth of her response for yourself.. "by their fruit you will recognize them.
Joseph M,
indeed the fruits means the teachings, or God's words ,
or, the way these "prophets" speak in the name of the Lord.
why ?
because Jesus commanded to his true followers
"What I tell you in the darkness, speak ye in the light; and what ye hear in the ear, proclaim upon the house-tops."
and also Peter has told to the "sheperds" 1 Peter 4:
11. If anyone speaks, he should do it as one speaking the very words of God. NIV
both "speaking the very words of God" and obeying them means "worshiping God"
by speaking incorectly "the very words of God" will result in disobeying "the very words of God"
this is sure
rus v.
hi - i'm new here so go easy on me!.
i've been lurking for a while trying to find out info on the jws.
some questions i have:.
DEAR SOM,
I like so much your nick
I apreciate so much your decision to serve God
I recommend something to you for read :
with cristian love, rus virgil
losthusband
you have a pm click on blue envelope on up - right side of the page next to your nickname
i have definatly seen in london uk a church with the title of " the real church of the worshippers of jehovah".
is this comman?
does anyone know of anymore?.
i have definatly seen in london uk a church with the title of " the real church of the worshippers of jehovah".
is this comman?
does anyone know of anymore?.
"i have definatly seen in london UK a church with the title of " the real church of the worshippers of jehovah""
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may be they are
i have definatly seen in london uk a church with the title of " the real church of the worshippers of jehovah".
is this comman?
does anyone know of anymore?.
I have seen these
http://www.amir.ro/indexen.html
http://the-true-jw.oltenia.ro/index.html
and there are more...
could be 8,000 or 18,000 years long......if to jehovah each "a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years a day.
" 1975 armagedon theory was based on this.
{notice how this theory has since died off} my wife was told off by an elder for giving a talk on "creative days not 24 hours" but not stating each was 6,000 years long...she said she didn't believe it....he backed off and said okay then!
regarding the lenght of a creative day...
How interesting is the man ! and his mind !
he wants to know all -- even the things God doesn't disclose to us - so I was !
But God has His own way to be : he "conceals" his things !
Proverbs 25 :
2. It is the glory of God to conceal a thing; But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.
The Bible searchers know for sure
--that God created Adam at the end of the sixth creative day
--that immediately (may be some years) after Adam's creation the seventh day begun
-- but never told God to us how long is a creative day !
-- never is told that at the end of the (seventh ) millenium, the seventh creative day is finished also !
I never found that !
All what humans (christians) did , was to suppose and to interpretise by themselves the chronologies (the private interpretation) , also the lenght of the creative day !
No one on earth can say that "the Spirit of truth/of God" helped him to find how long is a creative day !
So , the conclusion is , we merely humans don't know how long is a creative day, it is something what belongs to God .
It can be so long , as to "cover" back the time "found" by scientifical means .
friendly, rus v.
yes, it sounds crazy doesn't yet.
if a religion went around preaching that today no one would take them seriously, and yet that is what the watchtower used to preach.
"the "time of the end," a period of one hundred and fifteen (115) years, from a.d. 1799 to a.d. 1914, is particularly marked in the scriptures.
I knew that !
in fact , it is the "way of reasoning" about prophecies which is "responsible" for all the datas ... the same reasoning...
...aplying one year for every day of some "periods" found in Bible ,
and then finding some historical events from where to start to count these numbers of years ,
and we have had "plenty" of datas...
