Well I think it is a very clever parody. I imagine quite a lot of JWs would be offended too.
GromitSK
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THE WITCHTOWER - June 2009: The Psalms - Wonderful Songs to Praise God
by processor indue to my own blessing, the june 2009 witchtower issue is ready for download now.. .
the psalms wonderful songs to praise god: who are the "sheep, goats and cattle" that jehovah entrusted to the "faithful and discreet slave"?
how are jehovah's witnesses "on the lookout for someone unfortunate?
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If smoking is a disfellowshipping offence, why isn't masturbation?
by yadda yadda 2 inmasturbation isn't directly mentioned in the bible but neither is smoking.
many of the reasons given for disfellowshipping smokers seem to also apply to masturbation: a form of uncleanness, a defilement of the flesh, letting an addictive thing become king over us, a form of covetousness.. why are occasional, habitual smokers disfellowshipped and shunned, yet chronic masturbators, of which the organisation is of course replete, do not even get a slap on the wrist (excuse the pun)?.
yadda.
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GromitSK
Hi Scott - I didn't marry and the JC facilitated my velocitous extramuralisation. Thankfully. :) As for telling the sister, I found out sometime after the JC that the details had been discussed and that remarks had been made by younger members of the congregation in front of my brother who was not and never had been a JW, and knew nothing about my sexuality. So much for discretion lol
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If smoking is a disfellowshipping offence, why isn't masturbation?
by yadda yadda 2 inmasturbation isn't directly mentioned in the bible but neither is smoking.
many of the reasons given for disfellowshipping smokers seem to also apply to masturbation: a form of uncleanness, a defilement of the flesh, letting an addictive thing become king over us, a form of covetousness.. why are occasional, habitual smokers disfellowshipped and shunned, yet chronic masturbators, of which the organisation is of course replete, do not even get a slap on the wrist (excuse the pun)?.
yadda.
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GromitSK
Could be worse. When I told the elders I was gay they suggested I get married (to a sister for the avoidance of doubt).
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A lesbian has been studying with JW for several years!
by asilentone inwell, i was told that a married lesbian that i know of has been studying with jw for several years.
i was shocked to see the teacher(i know that sister too) and the student pictured together on facebook.
they were smiling big time.
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GromitSK
LMAO
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A lesbian has been studying with JW for several years!
by asilentone inwell, i was told that a married lesbian that i know of has been studying with jw for several years.
i was shocked to see the teacher(i know that sister too) and the student pictured together on facebook.
they were smiling big time.
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GromitSK
Don't let me stop you convulsing please.
Isn't it interesting that your comments are tolerated on here when you yourself appear to be so intolerant? Naturally your comments are offensive and irrational and you probably realise the former and intend to provoke - well I suggest you look for your kicks some other way because frankly you seems a bit weird to me. I think there is possibly something wrong with you mentally which is very sad to see. I will assume that is the case. I think this will be my last comment on the matter as there is no benefit in dialogue with you and the fact that I have to wash my hands everytime I respond to your post is becoming tedious.
Mouthy: although I am sure unconditional love is your own motivation, I can't say that this forum has struck me by the degree of unconditional love I have seen on it. It looks like a cross-section of society in general, which is no bad thing. We all have our pet hates and prejudices I guess. :).
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A lesbian has been studying with JW for several years!
by asilentone inwell, i was told that a married lesbian that i know of has been studying with jw for several years.
i was shocked to see the teacher(i know that sister too) and the student pictured together on facebook.
they were smiling big time.
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GromitSK
To be honest Polin's ignorance is the saddest thing I have read for a long time.
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A lesbian has been studying with JW for several years!
by asilentone inwell, i was told that a married lesbian that i know of has been studying with jw for several years.
i was shocked to see the teacher(i know that sister too) and the student pictured together on facebook.
they were smiling big time.
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GromitSK
Actually I do like flakes (the confection anyway). I don't have any objection to people having their own beliefs, although I do find the spouting of scriptures and the usual religious platitudes somewhat nauseating, I respect other's freedom to express them (though I don't respect the actual belief if that makes sense).
Where people push their beliefs ie insist they are correct and others are not and are condemnatory then the "shove" recommendation applies, otherwise it doesn't. I certainly don't view all christians as being the same, or all religious people. A lot of people on here don't fall into the "shove it" category, but some do. as an aside one of my friends is christian and gay. I find the combination puzzling but that's his business.
As an aside I am not sure what you have that I can't find in Manchester that would induce me to chase you Ninja
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A lesbian has been studying with JW for several years!
by asilentone inwell, i was told that a married lesbian that i know of has been studying with jw for several years.
i was shocked to see the teacher(i know that sister too) and the student pictured together on facebook.
they were smiling big time.
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GromitSK
Personally as a gay man I couldn't give a toss what the Bible says about it. I do not really understand anymore why anyone with any intellect gay or straight bothers with Christianity at all in the first place, however for a gay person to try to rationalise it and spend his or her life trying to conform to a book of fairy stories in organisations that quite clearly do not offer any support to them or want them, or try to modify fundamental personality traits in this way is beyond me (of course it's usually because of indoctrination, family ties and fear).
Speaking from personal experience (and not for gay people in general) I definitely didn't have any choice in the matter. For most people being gay is very difficult to deal with at least initially and I cannot imagine many would deliberately choose to be gay rather than straight given the choice, especially in formative years, even in this more liberal climate. I do believe that sexuality is a continuum with degrees of homosexuality and heterosexuality though and not simply an either/or. I think some people can make the choice and others cannot (I regard myself in the latter category).
If there is a God of some description I doubt very much whether he/she/it cares what I do in bed or who I love, as long as I do love people. Coming to terms with being gay has been difficult at times, Christianity has not been one scintilla of help in that process. It has however made me think very carefully about religion over the years. to be frank JWs and all the other born again pushers out there can shove their opinions and their Bibles. Why don't they spend as much time condemning stealing, idolatory or better still fornication (answer: because they prefer a target that like-thinking none-believers might find acceptable - try compaigning at your local nightclub against fornication and see where that gets ya).
ATJ: Really sorry to hear about your Bro. It is not an uncommon outcome sadly especially in younger men who don't feel they can resolve the conflict.
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Getting rid of a ton of Watchtower Books, Bound Volumes, Ect...
by drew sagan ini have recently decided that it's time to let go.
i no longer need this stuff and am not interested in using it to research the past.
i just deleted 20+ gb of watchtower related junk off my computer.
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GromitSK
Wait for winter and use it for fuel. Alterntively you could tear it into strips, make a hole in one corner and hang it in the John.
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The People Up There vs. The People Down Here
by Confession indo you ever detect a difference in the way people make evaluations of an organization, as compared to an individual?
how about a difference between the way people judge one who holds an office of some sort, compared to one who doesn't?.
it seems to me that many people have a different set of standards for, say, "the people up there" as opposed to "the people down here.".
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GromitSK
Ziddina. Interesting perspective. I don't agree wrt to adults. It would be far better to get consent from the victim. Taking control out of their hands is not the way to treat someone who has been violated unless you personally witnessed it. Remember the person in front of you is a real victim - what may or may not happen next is only hypothetical at this stage. Unless you actually witnessed the offence reporting it to the Police without the victim's consent will only force the victim to recount their experience to the Police. I don't think anyone has the right to do that.
Wrt to kids I think the Parents are the ones to deal with it in the first instance.If they don't and won't be pursuaded then I'd call the cops, again unless I personally witnessed it in which case I would intervene, make sure the child was safe and call the cops.
Going back to the original point: if we know someone has been violated (and I mean KNOW) then our first priority should be the victim. Part of the victim's healing process would often be coming to terms with what has happened. If I witnessed the event I would get the Police involved straight away. If the offence is reported to me by the victim or the offender it is best if they report it. I don't believe that failing to report is the same thing as committing the offence, they are different issues but both serious.