But if they leave it like this wouldn't that make it last forever seeing as how they say newly annointed are replacing the ones that screwed up? Now THAT could go on forever.
Now you're getting the idea!!!!
Cadellin
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New Understanding of "This Generation"
by snowbird inam i dreaming this, or is the wt teaching "the generation that will not pass away" to be those who knew some of the anointed of 1914?.
are they crazy?
(not a rhetorical question).. sylvia.
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Dissolved Congregation
by dudeson ini heard recently that 1 of the 4 congregations in our relatively small area has been "dissolved" and relocating many of them to the hall i used to attend.
it must be due to the low numbers these days.
our average sunday meeting attendance when i left was around 75.. does this seem to be a growing trend recently?.
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Cadellin
According to the Annual Meeting there were two new peaks in the USA during the last service year, so why are congregations being merged?
The peaks might have been in foreign language or in some "aspect" of the ministry like bible studies counted. I think a lot of these cong dissolutions are in English, where things have been stagnating for a l o n g time.
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New Understanding of "This Generation"
by snowbird inam i dreaming this, or is the wt teaching "the generation that will not pass away" to be those who knew some of the anointed of 1914?.
are they crazy?
(not a rhetorical question).. sylvia.
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Cadellin
Yes, there is a "new understanding," which was delivered at the Annual Meeting. The generations--okay, brace yourselves--overlap! As long as there are annointed whose lifespans overlap, they are all one generation.
Got to hand it to them, it's inventive, at least!
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Proof Jehovah's Witnesses have been declining for nearly 20 years? (At least in the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand)
by slimboyfat insee the tables on pages 124 and 125 of this book:.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?hl=en&lr=&id=mtw90ykkb3gc&oi=fnd&pg=pa117&dq=scientology+jehovah%27s+stark&ots=0-yvd6jk_o&sig=vualoe-l3bxezaqktnbfhpsdj8u#v=onepage&q=scientology%20jehovah's%20stark&f=false.
admittedly these statistics don't measure the same thing official watchtower statistics do (i.e.
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Cadellin
More evidence that the decision to stop printing publisher stats in the KM each month is because the news is depressing. Now, they can just cherry pick which item (that shows the greatest increase in whatever category--placements in March of 186-page books on paper that yellows, for instance) to reveal. Of course, this is typical, razor-sharp JW logic: If we don't publish it in our lits, then it isn't true!
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College
by AllTimeJeff ini know i have threatened to do this before, like when i first left.
but i am thinking of going to college.
this time, i feel determined.
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Cadellin
Hey, Jeff, do it! I was 40 when I started university--didn't do the online thing, went bricks and mortar and was absolutely terrified walking into my first class (English 202) which was packed with 19 year olds. They all thought I was the instructor--doesn't matter, it was awesome and now, 4 years later, I'm in grad school, teaching a freshman class at the same time and getting paid for it--now when I walk into the class, I really am the instructor and absolutely love teaching...Follow your passion, and you'll find a way to make it pay.
Sounds hackneyed, but hey--its the total opposite of what the Society tells you to do so it's got to have merit!!!!
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Graph from Dec 15 09 Wt on How to Apportion Your Time to Remain Joyful. Crazy....
by Hopscotch inhere is a scan from the dec 15 09 wt (study ed) with a graph of how a witness should apportion their time to remain joyful.. .
so according to this graph, to remain joyful a witness should spend 3 times as much of his waking hours in 'theocratic activities' as he should in secular work!
hopscotch.
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Cadellin
Well, at least they're allowing JWs HALF their time for purposes other than JW activities...! While I'm blown away by the level of control, I'm also trying to figure out the purpose behind this. Sheep are doing less, obviously. It must be desperate if they're going so far as to tell people to quit their jobs if they can't keep up their 50% of the your breathing time in JW-related activities. This, when unemployment is around 10% and non-educated folks like JWs are having the hardest time...
Oh, I forgot--Jah will get them that $50/hour, 18-hour/week job. I wonder how many JWs use food banks already...I know of 2 in our hall.
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Among the Most Destructive of JW Core Ideas!
by AK - Jeff in'waiting for the real life'.
they exploit the biblical text to mean in essence that jw's 'put off' normal human life until the new world.. i never thought of the damage that does until i began to review my life history.
i have discovered that i am 35 years behind.
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Cadellin
We each create our own reality. When a JW lives his/her life "for the truth" and immerses him/herself in it, then that is reality, that is what is comforting, what is known. It becomes real. The neurological connections in the brain are reinforced by constant propaganda. Okay, so I'm stating the obvious--but the fact is, the cycle of reinforcement is itself rewarding and becomes the purpose, rather than just the mechanism.
Which isn't to say that's the best way to live the 80 or 90 years we're each given. But it makes it a little easier to understand, and as another poster said, when you break out of it and start engaging with life on different terms, not only is, say, walking into your first philosophy class or first "worldly" party frightening, but that much more exhilarating.
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Problems: The Bethel Family and Social Security Tax Exemption
by daniel-p inso i happened to be reading a website about the amish, and i came across this:.
"do the amish pay taxes?
""self-employed amish do not pay social security tax.
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Cadellin
Okay, this is perplexing. I personally know of a case of a couple who were given their pink slip from Patterson, and then one of them got grievously (terminally) ill and, though the Society did pay for a portion (and I don't know what percentage but I suspect not terribly much) of their med expenses after they left, they were specifically instructed by the Society to register for Medicaid as soon as possible.
So wouldn't that be blatant hypocrisy? And we would never expect to see blatant hypocrisy from the WT....
I'd be interested in what Jeff can find.
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Notes From the Annual Meeting - Oct 3, 2009
by daniel-p infrom a little bird... .
interesting portions highlighted.
notes from annual meeting (oct 3, 2009) .
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Cadellin
Thanks for all these interesting comments--The problem with anyone with half-a-brain is that this latest "overlapping" idea has absolutely no connection with ANY definition of "generation". If that's what Jesus meant, why didn't he simply say that???? But, alas, I doubt few JWs will think about it this way.
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Layin' some heavy stuff on ya'
by AK - Jeff inthree days ago i became aware that my daughter was arrested.
again.. here's a little history.
we adopted this child when she was 2 months old.
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Cadellin
Jeff, you and your wife are truly good and noble people. My heart goes out to you and I wish I could help in some way. I'm a parent and I cannot imagine the torture of seeing your daughter deliberately self-destruct. But you are doing the right thing in caring for your grandchildren. I hope you can continue to cope. Blessings to you.