Posts by Cadellin

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what happened to "peace and security"???

by highdose in

i remember growing up as a dub that everyone was constantly on the look out for what could be the cry of peace and security... then suddenly people just stopped, it stopped being mentioned in talks ... everything.

theories please?.

Cadellin

Welcome, Feg! Firstly, you have an interesting handle; I'm curious as to its meaning, if you feel like sharing.

Second, you might want to release the caps lock on your keyboard, since all caps is like YELLING AT SOMEONE, and I'm sure you weren't intending that.

Thirdly, I'm not sure your treasure hunter analogy works so well. If the WT/FDS/GB are like treasure hunters, they're treasure hunters who dig like crazy in one spot all the while declaring, "This is where God is telling us to dig and if you don't dig with us right here, you don't love Jehovah!" until its starkly obvious there's nothing there. Then they run to a new spot and start digging like crazy all the while repeating the same thing. If someone asks about all of the empty holes surrounding them, their reply is "Holes? What holes? Oh, THOSE holes--apostates dug them!"

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I'm reading the Bible cover to cover...

by homeschool in

....what the heck have i gotten myself into .

as a sidenote, in genesis 21....abraham threw isaac a party on the day he was weaned.

check out the history on that and find out what other religions believe about that (i checked out the jewish & baptist websites).

Cadellin

I probably should add that such a widow would be subject to heavy social opprobrium, which would in itself probably enough to discourage such action. But from a strictly legal perspective, I don't think there was any prohibition.

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I'm reading the Bible cover to cover...

by homeschool in

....what the heck have i gotten myself into .

as a sidenote, in genesis 21....abraham threw isaac a party on the day he was weaned.

check out the history on that and find out what other religions believe about that (i checked out the jewish & baptist websites).

Cadellin

"it just feels to me like the bible was written by men & not by god..."

Right. When you start to understand the cultural, social and political setting, ie, what was going on in the ANE at the time, it becomes a little easier to understand. Why the big laws on fornication and adultery? Having children was the most important thing anyone could do, and for a man, having plenty of sons to protect the settlement, carry on the name and leave the farm to was critical. Tight control on women meant tight control on fertility--you wanted to know that the baby she was carrying was YOURS and no one else's. You might have noted that that the laws re virginity were only imposed on women, not men.

Actually, there is no law against fornication per se in the Mosaic Law Code (please, correct me if I'm wrong). There are laws against sleeping with a virgin (damaging someone else's goods, as Nark brought out) and sleeping with someone else's wife (stealing someone else's goods) but there's no explicit prohibition against, for instance, a widow without family sleeping with an unmarried guy she's not related to, as long as she's not in her father's house (b/c she's once more her father's property and good for re-sale). Each of the laws restricting sex have to do with either woman's value as property, incest or controlling who the father of offspring is (adultery).

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FlyingHighNow Needs Our Love & Support

by snowbird in

jw
friends

her son, jesse, is in serious condition.. my son is in surgery and may lose his hand and arm.. jesse got an infection in a cut on his finger.

his finger and hand swelled to the size of an arm .. .

they have to do surgery on his hand and arm.

Cadellin

(((FHN & son))) I can't imagine how terrible this is for you both..

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Who Has the most beautiful Name on this board?

by hamsterbait in

i have my own preference, but dont want to influence the vote.. as you register your vote please add 1 to the running total.. hamsterbait -1. shall we close the vote next week?.

any betters here?.

hb.

Cadellin

I think Angharad is lovely, too. Does that make Angharad - 3? Also I have to put in a vote for Leolaia. Mind you, Cadellin is pretty as well!!! :) (Especially when she's in her nightie, tee-hee!)

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Attended DC this weekend, quick recap...the End may not be imminent could take a million years but its still coming

by shopaholic in

attended the dc this weekend in california with a jw acquaintance of mine that wanted to go 'jw man-hunting' and didn't want to go alone.

she knows i'm not active and haven't been to a meeting in a long time and have no interest in jw men.

i think she feels like she has the best of both worlds with me, anyway it was interesting...the gb appears to be changing their tune and i don't think the masses even realize it.. br.

Cadellin

Shop, very interesting! You are indeed a good and loyal friend. Tell me, did Br. Splane use the word "imminent" at all? Did any of the other speakers? As has been noted on other threads about the DC, the word "imminent" seems to be the key word at many of the conventions--it sure as hell was at the one I attended. But then, we didn't have the emminent privilege of hosting a GB--who, of course, has the inside scoop on what's really going on!

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Yay for Womanhood! Female Min.Serv's under consideration.

by cattails in

the "priscilla" deliberations.. gb subcommittees now re-considering role of women in the organization.. example of phoebe as "diakonos" revisited.. could women be appointed to ministerial servant positions in view of the need in congregations?.

what's your take on latest rumors?

http://www.extjforo.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14821.

Cadellin

And if the only way to come to the "truth" is to be drawn by God, why isn't he drawing more men, hmmm?

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Yay for Womanhood! Female Min.Serv's under consideration.

by cattails in

the "priscilla" deliberations.. gb subcommittees now re-considering role of women in the organization.. example of phoebe as "diakonos" revisited.. could women be appointed to ministerial servant positions in view of the need in congregations?.

what's your take on latest rumors?

http://www.extjforo.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14821.

Cadellin

I'll believe it when I see it. Women are still not allowed to sit at either end of the table in Bethel dining rooms. Why? They might get thinking they're the table "head," a position only for males, even if its a 19 year old eating his first meal there. Crazy, what?

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What's with all the 'Imminent' nonsense?

by AK - Jeff in

could it be that the proximity of 2014 is at the heart of it?.

i have no contact with jw's - except on this board - but my wife does at times with her family.

imminent is the cry of the sky for the jw's it seems.. i recall the years leading up to 1975 with a lot of that sort of thing.

Cadellin

No, no, no, you guys got it all wrong!

They weren't saying "Armaggedon is IMMINENT" at the DC, they were saying that it's IMMANENT! You see, "immanent" (Etymology: Late Latin immanent-, immanens, present participle of immanere to remain in place, from Latin in- + manere to remain) means it's inherent, it's a permanent fixture of the whole Witness theology. They were finally admitting that the general Armaggedon concept is here to stay--it's what makes Witnesses what they are.

New light can come and go but Armaggedon's nearness remains forever, see? It's not the Society's fault that the two words sound the same...

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So long and thanks for all the fish.

by reniaa in

jw
friends

here is a goodbye thread for people who have decided to move on and leave jwn.

posting a message for everyone or just some..

Cadellin

Reniaa: I will miss you. While I didn't agree with some of your statements, I value and respect your right to make them, here or anywhere. Go in peace and, please, drop back when you feel like it.