Posts by Cadellin

I started back at 41, graduated magna cum laude at 44 and got full funding for graduate school. I'll have my M.A. in English in a year. Hard? Yup. Worth it? Already, in terms of getting my brain back. Whether I teach or not when I'm through, or go on to a Ph.D. program, doesn't matter. I feel like I've reclaimed at least a decade of my life. My ability to analyze and critically examine issues, JW or otherwise, has increased exponentially. And I'm setting the example for my daughter...

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This Year's DC--the First One Concluded Today--Any News?

by Cadellin in

the first dc here in the us concluded today (sunday) in nyc (queens assembly hall, i think).

anyone go or here anything about it?

there was supposed to be a new brochure about creation released and i'm curious....

Cadellin

The first DC here in the US concluded today (Sunday) in NYC (Queens Assembly Hall, I think). Anyone go or here anything about it? There was supposed to be a new brochure about Creation released and I'm curious...

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The Bible, Why not Reliable?

by sayitsnotso in

okay here is my thread to discuss this.

i believe the bible is inspired by god and reliable.

many argue it's neither.

Cadellin

Everytime I think I'm smart, I read something Leo's posted and realize that I am Gumby...

Gumby

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The Bible, Why not Reliable?

by sayitsnotso in

okay here is my thread to discuss this.

i believe the bible is inspired by god and reliable.

many argue it's neither.

Cadellin

When I grow up, I want to be Leolaia

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New Creation Book

by God_Delusion in

i was recently informed (on jwn) that plans to publish a new creation book were well ahead.

is this true?

if so, can anyone clarify this for me?.

Cadellin

Oops, sorry, neverending--I misunderstood your post. I thought you were referring to the brochures. I see now you're referring to the thought a new Creation book. Yes, I agree, I'd be stunned if they attempted that, given the mess they made of the first, how much more information is now available and how much scrutiny another stab at it would elicit.

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New Creation Book

by God_Delusion in

i was recently informed (on jwn) that plans to publish a new creation book were well ahead.

is this true?

if so, can anyone clarify this for me?.

Cadellin

Neverending, I suspect that the answer lies in the titles of these new publications:

Was Life Created?

The Origin of Life- Five questions worth asking?

It's my guess that they're going to try attacking evolution via abiogenesis. If they stick to the game plan they've used before, a classic bait-and-switch. They'll confuse the two issues (which are entirely different fields of study, something most JWs would never discern) and then dazzle the feckless reader with all kinds of quotes about how scientists have no idea how life could have started, how they've never been able to reproduce life in the lab, how Stanley Miller's experiment in the 50's has been falsified, how majestically complex life is, etc. etc.. Then they'll finish with a grand flourish: "So does it make sense to believe in EVOLUTION?" There'll be no mention of any of the stunning discoveries of the last decade, like tiktaalik roseae, H. floresiensis or the plethora of recent information about (this mermaid's personal fave) H. neanderthalensis.

Of coursek, I'm just guessing. I'd love to see a .PDF. C'mon, someone's got to have one...!

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June 2010 Awake! more duplicity.....

by Hobo Ken in

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i was up in my mum's house the other night (she and my father are still active jws) and saw the june 2010 awake!.

as i browsed through it i came to watching the world.

as i read the article on the "baby mammoth" i noticed that there seemed to be some important information missing, as well as some good old watchtower selective quoting.. bear in mind that devout witnesses would never question the organisation or suspect that an article could be misleading them far less go and research the information to check it's authenticity.. the article mentions the age of the animal at time of death (3 to 4 months) and the fact that it was well preservedin the ice and that it's airways and digestive systems were clogged with silt.. right at the end of the article they say that the "scientists were lead to believe" the animal "must have drowned".

Cadellin

Nice catch, Hobo. I read that little blurb too and my crap alert went off. Meant to research it because it smelled suspicious and you got to it first. Thanks! I'm both surprised and not surprised at the dishonesty you've uncovered. Surprised that they haven't learned a thing from the Creation book debacle, which did so much to drive "honest-hearted ones" away from this organization. Not surprised because it's so much part of the warp and woof of intellectual dishonesty and scholarly speciousness that makes them who they are...

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Was it EX JW literature / WT's or the BIBLE which woke you up? Post scriptures if any....

by EndofMysteries in

i considered myself immune to ex jw stuff.

no amount of old watchtowers or anything would change me.

it was seeing treatment of others by elders and the bible itself, which woke me.

Cadellin

What a great thread!

For me, it was the intellectual dishonesty. Once I actually started thinking about it, I couldn't reconcile the differences between the WT's version of history and the secular, scholarly version. There had to be a reason, a reason rooted in something real (not just doctrine). So I started researching various things--the 607v.586 issue, radiometric dating, historical evidence for asserting that we were currently experiencing the worst famines, wars and pestilence in all of human history. And you can figure the rest of the story. What made me so mad was how the WT glibly manipulates and misuses secular quotes. But I wasn't ready to leave yet. For that, it took the Creation book. The gross deception of that book and its representation of evolution broke this camel's (mermaid's) back.