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  Another Elder

  by burnedout in

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  Cadellin

  Welcome, burnedout. I'm the wife of an elder as well as the daughter of one, so I can totally relate to the "other side" of your story. My husband is wonderful and I love him dearly but he refuses to even consider any evidence of the duplicity and dishonesty of the WT. I see him barreling through some evenings in a flurry to get his parts ready or take care of congregational things, sometimes very stressed out. He keeps himself so buried in it that he can't see the forest for the trees, if you see what I mean.

  As I've said before, it continues to surprise me how it is the men who wake up first, in so many (though not all) cases, but perhaps being on the inside as an elder has something to do with it...
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  Resigned

  by Franklin Massey in

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  i finally resigned as an elder.

  my conscience wouldn't allow me to continue.

  i've battled for years trying to reconcile the fallacies of the wt society with my own personal beliefs.

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  Cadellin

  You are truly an "honest-hearted" person. It's ironic that we claim to be searching for honest-hearted people and yet those who really are intellectually honest end up seeing the discrepancies and unScriptural manipulation techniques and leave. Those with courage, that is.

  Congratulations for being so brave.
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  2011 District a$$embly - We cant wait. The board is abuzz WHAT NOOLITE?

  by hamsterbait in

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  the first summer a$$embly finishes this weekend.. tell tell!.

  who are the toes.

  the verrucas and fungus?.

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  Cadellin

  Let me make sure I've got this right: The DC flyer shows Daniel's image with all of the kingdoms identified down to the AA world power, then there's an arrow pointing at the toes with a floating question mark. This set-up would prime a reader/viewer to expect some kind of useful or illuminatory information regarding the toes, paralleling the already disclosed info re the rest of the image.

  The rhetorical context--that is, a talk at the annual district convention, where traditionally new and "exciting" information is announced, coupled with the thematic implications of the passing of the previous worldly kingdoms and the imminence of God's Kingdom--would lead one to believe that some announcement of significance with respect to where we are in the stream of time (to use a hackneyed JW expression) would be forthcoming.

  All that--and the announcement is basically that there's nothing to announce??? The toes have no significance??? THAT'S what that flyer is all about????
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  Hi Friends! An Update! I'm a mommy now! :)

  by Butterflyleia85 in

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  i know i havent been on here forever!

  i still am very happy and researching and reading all i can to keep me from going back.. i want what is best for my baby boy, ian.

  he is so precious to me!!.

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  Butterfly: It is so great to hear that things are looking up for you. Your son is adorable!!! Congratulations!! This is for the many birthday cakes he will get to enjoy as he grows!!
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  New Curcuit Overseer Brainwash Talk....Obey the Slave even if you find a serious Flaw in JW Doctrine

  by foolsparadise in

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  http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/media/circuit-overseer-5-15-11.mp3.

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  brainwashing at its best here.

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  Cadellin

  Could anyone confirm exactly which talk in the CO week's visit this is and WHEN it was given? We had our CO visit last week, and I was there Tues and Sun (sigh) and didn't hear anything like this. I missed refused to go Thursday night, which is the Congregation "Bible" Study followed by the CO talk. So maybe it was then?? But I'd like confirmation, if possible.
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  how would you interpret this wt cover?

  by therevealer in

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  Cadellin

  This is one weird cover; given this organization's repeatedly botched predictions as to when the "end" would come, I would say they're taking a huge risk with this kind of cover. It's like a big reminder that so many lives have gone by w/o their predications happening. Also, it's clear that the WT art department has few, if any, trained professionals who stay current in the industry. As another poster observed, this is a pastiche spanning the 20th century, yet supposedly organized to show a single life. The little boy in the knee pants is from very early in the 20th century; early 1920's I'd guess and he looks to be around 10 years old. That would make him born in...OH WAIT...that would make him born in 1914!!!

  The boy with the bike looks like 1930s, as has already been noted. He looks to be in his early to mid teens, born around 1920. The guy with the dishes is from the 1950's, the guy with the briefcase, maybe the 1970's. There's no way this could all be one person, yet that's ostensibly what it's portraying. Are the artists so out of touch with how people live that they really think someone who would wear a cap and knee pants as a boy is still alive, albeit hobbling around with a cane? The old guy might be in his eighties, at the most. And yet if it's not supposed to depict a single life, what's the point? Why display it in this manner? Because of this anachronistic depiction, the picture has a decidedly creepy feel...

  Also, so many of the pics the WT uses show the "representative" white, middle class male, as if somehow that represents the "majority" of people, either gender-wise or economically.
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  Introducing Myself

  by StandFirm in

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  hello to jwn!

  this is standfirm.

  i mainly post on the topix jehovah's witness forum, but i decided to give it a try over here also.

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  Cadellin

  Welcome, standfirm. You show courage; I like that.

  If you feel like answering one question I have, whenever you get to it, that would be great, because this question is something that got me thinking (uncomfortably, I might add) when I was active: How can JWs legitimatey and honestly say we are in the "worst time of human history," and seeing fulfillment of certain parts of Matt 24, when a close examination of the facts reveals something very different? In fact, the explosion of human population, coupled with the fact that people in almost every corner of the world are living LONGER than in centuries past, points to the last 70 years as being a period of (relatively) unprecedented peace and prosperity.

  I'm interested in your thoughts. (Well, anybody else's, too.)
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  Jewelry advice

  by TD in

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  as every married man knows (or should know) anniversaries where the number ends in either zero or five are more special and important than all the others.

  your 20th is somehow more special than the 19th) anyhow, i've got one of those "magic number" anniversaries coming up and am thinking about jewelry.

  any advice for getting the most bang for your buck?

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  On one of those "5" or "0" anniversaries past, my husband swiped my wedding ring w/o me knowing it and had four diamonds added (the number four was for aesthetic purposes, not for any special meaning). He took me out to dinner and presented me with a small box (yes, those little boxes!) inside of which was my beautiful, even-better ring.

  The only downside was that I went through a degree of agitation for the preceding two weeks thinking I'd lost my wedding ring! So while the result was wonderful, that aspect might have to be navigated so your significant other doesn't have a melt-down!
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  Awake 5/11 - THE SEVENTH WORLD POWER!!! Gasp!! - A history lesson

  by doubtful in

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  the watchtower loves this point.

  he not only felt that he was living in the last "days", but in the last hour.

  he says at 1 john 2:18:.

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  Good survey of western history, doubtful, and it shore don't line up with the WT's spin...I've thought those very same things and wondered how any semi-educated JW could go along with such clear incongruity b/w the WT's version of history and the secular consensus. I think "semi-educated" is the key word, however. Most JWs I know quit history as an optional subject in school as soon as they can OR (and, sadly, this is more common), history is just not taught well in many schools. And few JW read much in the way of non-theocratic stuff; when they do, it's stuff that is either trivial fluff or that ratifies their beliefs.

  I suppose I shouldn't generalize like that, but I'm basing it on my own experience. The historical discrepancies you point out so well came to light for me when I began to "wake up" and began seriously researching these very subjects. Ironically, I went back to university to finish my degree around the same time and that kind of critical thinking and reading to which I was exposed helped the process along. That, I believe, this the real reason the WT forbids higher ed.

  In particular, your observation about the Anglo-American WP is salient, especially in view of the upcoming DC talk that supposedly will discuss this. Sure this last (7th?) king will only last a short while, depending on how you define "short"! Ha! Uncle Sam's sinking fast; Britain is already nearly inconsequential in terms of international clout and the US, while still a WP, is clinging to dominance with its toenails as all around it, other nations are catching up and surpassing it in terms of economic influence and power.
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  New Light @ The 2011 District Convention

  by dontplaceliterature in

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  " at the bottom of the image on the back of the invitation raises some eyebrows, but last night in the routine district convention article during the service meeting, i caught that one of the paragraphs mentioned that we would be encouraged to keep a copy of the tract in hand for a discussion during sunday's last talk.

  my guess is, there is going to be some new revelation about what the "?

  " represents, or some other fangled idea.

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  Okay, here's a thought: A nu-lite interpretation of the toes could buy the WT what they seriously need: time. Let me explain. In the illustration, the feet are clearly defined as the Anglo-American WP (a stretch in itself) and the mystery question mark is linked to the toes. Each of the preceding parts of the image are defined similarly--that is, a world power that has come and gone. According to JW interpretation, we are now living in the time of the last WP and there will be no other WPs following the Anglo-American (whcih pretty much means the US in any real sense).

  Stay with me. I've often thought that the more intelligent of the WT higher-ups, who might read the news regularly and follow international developments, should be getting very very nervous, as it is becoming increasingly clear that the US is in its twilight as a WP and fading fast. On the ascent? China. Whether or not China will ever be a WP can be debated, but one thing is clear: the US is being surely and steadily dethroned. It's lost power and standing in the international community; its influence is on the wane.

  But wait!! That wasn't supposed to happen. The big A was supposed to strike while the US was the WP! Okay, so now comes the strategy: maybe the WT will finagle some kind of alternate interpretation for the toes. Maybe the toes are the rise of some other kind of power (probably not the UN, since its toothless and weaker than a gang of Somali pirates). Say, a faction or godless splinter group that is somehow (in the feckless mind of the FDS) taking control, like the rise of Evil Athiests!! They would be located "within" the AA WP but still weild control in some way so that even in the dimming campfires of the US, the WT can cling to hope for a bit longer...