So nothing else like the blood issue?
Is it true they are closing the French branch office?
Thanks,
Ignored One, (Iggy).
just wondered about this.
what happened in france 2 or 3 years ago that led to that campaign they had?
was it the tax issue, something else or a bit of both?.
So nothing else like the blood issue?
Is it true they are closing the French branch office?
Thanks,
Ignored One, (Iggy).
just wondered about this.
what happened in france 2 or 3 years ago that led to that campaign they had?
was it the tax issue, something else or a bit of both?.
Hi,
Just wondered about this. What happened in France 2 or 3 years ago that led to that campaign they had? Was it the tax issue, something else or a bit of both?
I remember hearing about it but didn't look into it.
Thanks,
Ignored One (Iggy).
i was wondering if anyone wanted to come to my defense on this jw discussion board at http://www.beliefnet.org this jw that post as "rosemaybud" is driving me crazy and i am tired of trying to get her off my back.
she never post about anything much, except to make hateful remarks to me or about me.
i post as "loveofwaterlilies".
Hmmm,
Why not ask if they've emailed Bill Bowen for example and asked him why he's fighting it and the others why they are appealing instead of just ass-uming it's because they believe it's the TruthTM.
Perhaps AlanF can help, I'm sure he could create a post to send this boring fool back into his/her hole. ;)
And what's he/she doing on a non-jw site anyway. ;)
last night at meeting they told us to just use our blood cards from last year.
in the past they've always told us how important it was to get it signed every year so that people could see our current views as jw's.....doesn't this new arangement negate everything they've ever said in regards to this?
absolutely nuts!.
Just come across this topic.
I remember being at the meeting when they were supposed to be giving out. In the UK cong I'm in they said that the new cards had to be sent back because of a 'printing error'.
This did strike me as strange but I didn't really think about it. It was before I'd found this page and the reform site after all.
Ignored One. (Iggy).
i have only suspicions about this, and an elder at the hall over 2 -1/2 years ago tipped me off to this and kind of semi-verified my long held suspicions.
i never did get to elder school or even ms school because i never kissed enough ass, so i can't emphatically prove it myself.. he basically inferred or implied that nearly all the wtb&ts late 20th century problems had something to do with the "great" apostacy (witch hunt) of c.1980.. i have also talked to my brother-in-law about this matter a couple of times and he seems to be of the same bend or thinking.
it's kind of like the borginazational culture that everyone "believes" or it's "known" that the troubles were rooted out when ray franz and friends were booted.. .
Hmmm.
It's a shame those Awakes and that "Sons of God" book aren't available on the cdrom. Do you think that was deliberate.
My mum may have the Awakes (hopefully).
Thanks for the info.
Ignored One (Iggy).
hey,.
ok, i need all the advice i can get...... last week i told my sister (she is jw, as is my entire family) that i did something stupid.
i had just broken up with my boyfriend because he was cheating on me.... and in some kind of drunk-revenge-mood i slept with his best friend..... .
Hi Puffs,
You're right, she doesn't have to go. I was more thinking that if she didn't they would likely diss her anyway.
Doh. Must remember to check posts for obivous pointless sentences.
Ignored One, (Iggy).
hey,.
ok, i need all the advice i can get...... last week i told my sister (she is jw, as is my entire family) that i did something stupid.
i had just broken up with my boyfriend because he was cheating on me.... and in some kind of drunk-revenge-mood i slept with his best friend..... .
((((Eppie))))
What a horrible situation.
Hmmm.
As I've never had to go through this I can't really advise you.
But I can say that from reading about others experiences it's likely that if you don't tell the elders she will. Then you'll have to go to the KC (kangaroo court) and answer all those less than subtle questions.
It's likely that the gossip-mill will go into overdrive regarding you regardless of whether you appear repentant and stay a JW or appear not repentant and are disfellowshipped.
I really don't know what to say. Erm, there's always disassociating yourself to try and stop any rumours but I doubt that would work. What would the elders-wives do without the rumour mill.
I think it depends on how much you have to lose regarding friends and family.
I'm sure someone will be able to give better advice than me, I'm probably just trying to work it out myself in this post.
Ignored One, (Iggy).
firstly may i thank all those who took the time and effort to respond to my post on the subject of circuit overseers and corruption?.
the majority of your replies were very well balanced, and i do take the point that not all c/os were or are indeed corrupt, and that there are sincere and genuine brothers out there.
with regard to my new topic, i encountered some very strange thinking from bethel, than what was actually contained within the printed pages of the awake magazine.
Without giving my identity away. (Unlikely really as I doubt anyone who knows me would read this board).
My brother was recently turned down for aux pioneering for continuous reasons.
1. Because he'd not done enough hours the previous months before he was baptized (this was recent and a big picky - most of the family agreed).
2. My mum gets benefits for him. Now, he was born with a rare form of cancer, retinoblastoma iirc. So he only has 1 eye and has to wear fairly thick lensed glasses to be able to see. He also isn't as bright as he perhaps would have been if they hadn't blasted his young brain with radio waves when he was a baby.
Personally I never particulary liked my old cong. They were far too cliquey. You know, have to be part of the ring to get the privlages or invites to gatherings etc..
Edit: Not that I was after privlages or anything. I couldn't care less about being able to do the sound, mics etc.
Anyway, that's my experience.
Ignored One, (Iggy).
i have only suspicions about this, and an elder at the hall over 2 -1/2 years ago tipped me off to this and kind of semi-verified my long held suspicions.
i never did get to elder school or even ms school because i never kissed enough ass, so i can't emphatically prove it myself.. he basically inferred or implied that nearly all the wtb&ts late 20th century problems had something to do with the "great" apostacy (witch hunt) of c.1980.. i have also talked to my brother-in-law about this matter a couple of times and he seems to be of the same bend or thinking.
it's kind of like the borginazational culture that everyone "believes" or it's "known" that the troubles were rooted out when ray franz and friends were booted.. .
Outlaw:
That's exactly the kinda thing I need to show my mum. She believes the general myth that the society never said anything about it.
It'll be nice to point these things out to her.
Ignored One. (Iggy).
thought i'd let you know about a chat i had with my jw mum a couple of days ago.
she was baptized at the age of 9 some years ago.. i casually asked her about 1975. she said pretty much what i expected her to say, that the brothers, her included read to much into it etc.
i asked whether the society had said anything about it, hinted at it even.
Thanks for the replies. I'll check out that site.
What I want is it to appear that I got it all from the watchtower cdrom as any hint of "apostate" stuff might put her off. Don't know if it would but I would rather not risk it.
She knew a lot about the issue, Adam's creation and Eve's creation etc. This could be an interesting discussion.
Thanks again guys. You apostates are nice people really
Shame all ex-JWs are tarred with the same brush.
Ignored One, (Iggy).