Also had to chuckle at the picture on page 157 in the garden of Eden
The whitest of white Adam and Eve and satan in the rear with cloven hoofed feet ,raised bat wings looking exactly like a vampire !
atlantis:.
how many versions of the book called riches were there?.
that was a project jerome was working on, so we will give him credit for this information.. .
Also had to chuckle at the picture on page 157 in the garden of Eden
The whitest of white Adam and Eve and satan in the rear with cloven hoofed feet ,raised bat wings looking exactly like a vampire !
atlantis:.
how many versions of the book called riches were there?.
that was a project jerome was working on, so we will give him credit for this information.. .
I have a copy too the same as Ultimate Axiom and it has an orange cover ,and the picture with the Phonograph in the position of page 349.
The back of this page is blank and the picture has an orange background colour
Thank goodness they are keeping the GB white and proportionly American with that nice token black man.
nasa plans return to moon by 2020
"this vision aims to return humans to the moon, and then to use it as a staging point for a manned mission to mars.
i wonder if jws will be required to canvas those areas too.
Wow a spaceship is circling the moon . Hang on did'nt that happen in 1969 ?
Someone may wonder then if the 1969 show was a fake ,but then any movie that good would not be made in America would it?
would he be working on the massive audio/visual complex being built at ramapo?.
i overheard my wife listening to some update broadcast this morning and immediately thought would a true humanitarian such as jesus, mahatma gandhi or albert schweitzer be at all interested in such things?
these were 'people' persons not interesting in the stupid trappings of life.. if the gb were to sanction the building of hospitals, orphanages, refugee centers and the like, maybe we would have a little more respect for them but this ramapo project seems like a sense waste of time, energy and money.
I wonder if Jesus was involved years ago when the governing body sanctioned VHS tapes to be made for their teaching work .The problem with some of the copies was they were recycled VHS tapes with PORN still on them !
Remember that ,or maybe Jesus was at the privvy when that occurred.
just a shower thought came to mind.. while jesus was nailed to the stake/cross (take your pick) because of the witnesses lack of belief in hell.
does that mean according to witness doctrine that satan and his demons were in heaven while jesus was being executed?.
what about after jesus went to heaven?
Heaven seems to be a totally different place compared to the local Kingdom Hall or any where true JW's are gathered.
An apostate in heaven can roam freely and speak and be spoken to ,but amongst JW people on earth apostates are condemned to hatred ,shown fear of ,thrown out of families just for not going to Kingdom hall anymore ,or questioning the enforced teachings of the governing body.
And yet none of us have ever been a Satan and corrupted gods crowning glory ,the first two people created made in gods image ,supposedly.
regular pioneers: 600 per year, 50 on average per month.auxiliary pioneers: 30 hours per monthauxiliary pioneers in march and april: fee reduced to 15 hours.
My ex wife used to do up to 130 hours a month
I guess when no one is special anymore they can't get up on a pedestal.
i have seen arguments surrounding jesus' resurrection being proof of "the trinity" - now while in some cases it's a good argument the evidence for it remains very weak.
(bible quotes are from the nwt but other bibles are referenced, use whichever you please) this following version of it is a good example.. "the bible indicates that all [persons] of the trinity was involved in jesus’ resurrection.
galatians[1:1] says that the father raised jesus from the dead.
@ Seabreeze
So does a memory stick weigh more when data is put on it? Really?
When you talk to someone do you weigh LESS when the sound comes out of your mouth?
curious.
time goes by so fast.
who remembers 1975, the ray franz incident, the generation change in 1995, the blood fractions, alternative service, participation in ochr, aid afrique, the historical research by james pellechia, jolene chu and johannes stephan wrobel?
@ Fisherman
Oh I remember the poorly written songs and how dreary some were. Is'nt it funny how they replaced their songs and song books over the years .
Alot like their teachings ,they became out of date ,and yet hymns of the churches can be beautiful and enduring in time. I think this just tells us how the WTS is just an imitator and failure.
Remember the half hearted droning of the congregations ,though sometimes one would hear a spirited singing voice ,undoubtly coming from someone seeking privileges or an over zealous pedophile hiding behind a kingdom song.
i have seen arguments surrounding jesus' resurrection being proof of "the trinity" - now while in some cases it's a good argument the evidence for it remains very weak.
(bible quotes are from the nwt but other bibles are referenced, use whichever you please) this following version of it is a good example.. "the bible indicates that all [persons] of the trinity was involved in jesus’ resurrection.
galatians[1:1] says that the father raised jesus from the dead.
@Seabreeze I'm curious to know (as animals have been brought into the conversation) ,if you believe animals have a soul /spirit combined or both things ?
This comes back to the WTS argument with Nephesh ,Ruah etc argument spirit or soul and how are they properly defined in light of the Bible.
The animals live physically like us and eat,defecate, get sickness and old age and die like us.
Do you believe they have a spirit that leaves the body? Where do they go? To me I see them live and die like us, thats the physical evidence.
You bring up things like Terminal Lucidity ,so do they possibly experience the same? Sort of like the fox I saw squashed on the road ,it looked like it was dead but then suddenly raised it's head and made a silent movement of its jaw as if crying out. I guess it was like the man I found on a rainy night who hit the back of a car on his motorcycle , his face was crushed and he was dying and trying to cry out but his jaw was not attached anymore.
See we live and experience similar things in life ,but just because my brain is bigger how come i am supposed to have a spirit/soul that can leave and be saved as a spirit?