I agree, education is key. The more people know, the more they are empowered to make a decision on what to believe. There's still a long way to go before people really "wake up" and realize that even if they do believe in a god or gods, an organized religion is just not necessary to exercise that belief and are simply a means to fleece people of their money and rob them of their free will.
Morbidzbaby
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Who thought 20 years ago religion would die because of pedophilia...?
by mP ini thought religion would die and be forgotten as people get educated and realise its nonsense and full of mistakes, lies and fraud.
i never thought they would self destruct the way they have by way of pedophile cases.
most people i know have no time for religion primarily because of the pedophile cover ups and disgusting treatment of the victims.
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Morbidzbaby
Congrats to your hubby! And congrats to you BOTH for being able to get away from the area you're in!! There's nothing like moving to a new place to start afresh after leaving the JW's.
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When you left the JW/WT religion, were you really an adult ?
by Phizzy ini spent decades in the religion, i was born in, so my world view, my education, my social skills, all were dictated by and controlled by the "religion".. i feel that when i left i was immature in many ways, i had never faced my own mortality, i knew nothing of the reality of evolution, i had never voted in an election, i had never donated blood, i had never confronted the reality of the bibles status etc etc etc.. it was like a child walking off in to the blue yonder, no knowledge, no experience.. the main problem was, i had never really made my own decisions, i had never had to consider all the evidence and then decide for myself.. it was frightening and yet exilarating at the same time, but i was woefully equipped for the real world.. how did you feel ?
confidant ?
perplexed ?
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Morbidzbaby
In years I was considered an adult... In life experience and ability to make decisions and not be taken advantage of because of how naive I was, I was still quite a child. I daresay a lot of born-ins are still children in many ways when they are in the org. They have no real ability to use their rational mind, no free thinking, no critical thinking skills.
When I finally left, I had critical thinking skills and made the decision on my own to just fade from the org based on their false doctrine and the fact that I had become an Atheist due to the above-mentioned critical thinking. But socially, I was still a child. I never really had associated with the "world" too much and the only "worldly" friend I had was one who used me.
It's been 2 years of education for me...but I think I've smartened up quite a bit, even though I still have a ways to go.
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How important are birthdays?
by Disillusioned Lost-Lamb inextremely, cause it's mine!.
go shorty it's my birthday.
gonna party like it's my birthday.
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Morbidzbaby
(((donny)))
I'm so sorry you're going through this. I cannot imagine the pain of being a parent and getting shunned by your child...though I might end up experiencing that in the future. Maybe, just maybe, being an elder will open his eyes.
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Are there strategies for attending a DC while DF?
by GeneM inmy 19 yr/old little brother who just got df'd a couple weeks ago is being forced to attend the dc by my family he still lives with.
anyone have experience with this that might have creative advise?
he is very social and this is going to break his heart.
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Morbidzbaby
Too bad you can't quickly get him a copy of Crisis of Conscience to read during the CONvention. If he's 19, he should be able to sit wherever the hell he wants, he's an adult.
Good on you for giving him a place to land and getting him involved in REAL life!!
Other things he can do:
~Sight-see. Walk around the convention city a bit, keeping an eye on the time so he can be back in his seat for intermission. MAYBE bring a small radio so he can listen to one or two points from the convention (they always broadcast it for the hearing impaired) so if he's grilled he has an answer.
~I agree he should talk to whomever he feels like talking to. If your family tries to give him a hard time about it and insists he NOT talk to people, he should tell them that since he was announced as "No longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses", then that means their silly-ass rules don't apply to him anymore and he can talk to whoever the hell he wants.
~He can also bring an iPod or similar and listen to podcasts from "apostates", as well as just some good old worldly music (I did this at my last convention hehe).
~If he has a smartphone, he can always sit high in the nosebleeds and watch some porn!! LOL
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Morbidzbaby
Nope. I never really did believe that (with the exception of things like Tarot, Runes, etc). I do Yoga now and I love it. I sleep so well when I do it.
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JW-MEDIA.ORG POSTED IT!!
by Cacky inhttp://www.jw-media.org/usa/20120620.htm.
they posted on their media page the story and that they are appealing.
they are sounding all vicitimized.
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Morbidzbaby
I don't think she actually mentions whether she told the elders of her abuse. From what I can see, the case has more to do with the fact that they could have prevented her abuse altogether and they didn't. Their policy made it possible for him to abuse her as well as another child (which he was convicted for THAT one). Considering he's already a registered sex offender, it's not hard to make the connection that Candace is telling the truth. I would think that even though he wasn't convicted for Candace, the fact that he was convicted later on for the other child is proof that the Watchtower enabled him to continue his behavior due to their secrecy policy.
His admissions of guilt for his step-daughter, as well as letters back and forth to the Legal Department from the elders are part of the court documents. Even if she doesn't get a conviction against Kendrick, they will still have a hell of a time appealing due to the fact that it was their negligence that led to her abuse and it's well documented that they did not report to police and swept it under the rug.
It's like if a company employee is injured because the manager didn't service a machine according to the manufacturer's directions, but did it cheaply according to the company's own way of doing things. The manager admits to the owner that he did not do his job correctly. The company has a crazy policy of not reporting the injury to OSHA but handling it in-house so they don't get penalized. Years later, the same manager screws up again and another employee is injured. The employee can't really prove that the manager didn't service the machine correctly because no one else witnessed him servicing the machine, but they CAN prove they were hurt on the job and that someone else was hurt as well and it was swept under the rug and that the company did nothing to prevent it. So the company is then at fault because they failed to handle the problem in the way it should have been handled and the employee is then entitled to damages from the company as well as possibly from the manager since he had a history of doing a half-assed job.
I hope that made sense lol
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JWTALK.NET: 'Apostates are having a field day with this child abuse case'.
by Joliette inboo!.
some of the utterly ridiculous comments that i've read on jwtalk.net:.
'i pray fevently jehovah will sanctify his name.
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Morbidzbaby
You know, I have to agree with them that we ARE having a Field Day... I mean, this is a HUGE vindication for so many victims of the Watchtower's child abuse policy. Who in their right mind WOULDN'T be rejoicing and spreading the news??
However, their reaction shows that they are NOT in their right mind. Not even close. Instead of looking at the facts of the case and realizing that this wasn't about the money and never was (because Candace could have taken a nice settlement and a gag order and just gone away), they blame the "ex-JW" who brought the case to court and claim it's all in an effort to slander "Jehovah's name". I'd like to ask them..."Is Jehovah's name Watchtower?? Because that's who the hell was sued, not Jehovah himself". In fact, the only reference to Jehovah is the side mention that The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is the corporation behind the Jehovah's Witnesses. How is that slander? How is that untrue? It was about justice plain and simple, and calling attention to this atrocious policy that has hurt so many children. To claim otherwise without first reading the facts surrounding the case is just willful ignorance and I for one am so glad to be on the side that's "having a Field Day" and not on the side that's blaming the innocent victim.
I wonder if any of them would look a victim of molestation at the hands of a Catholic priest in the eye and tell him they don't believe him. None of them would have the balls and it's so believable because that's "Babylon the Great". Yet this person who has suffered so much is brought under such derision because she went for justice from their publishing company. Mindless sheep.
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JW-MEDIA.ORG POSTED IT!!
by Cacky inhttp://www.jw-media.org/usa/20120620.htm.
they posted on their media page the story and that they are appealing.
they are sounding all vicitimized.
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Morbidzbaby
Nomad, he was convicted...just not of molesting Candace or his step-daughter. He IS a registered sex offender. They were able to award damages due to the fact that the Watchtower covered up his history of sexual abuse and did not report it to the police so that it could be investigated. Basically, they obstructed justice in a way. The damages go to Candace because her molestation was a direct result of this man not being properly investigated and punished by the authorities. If the Society had not had the two witness policy in place as well as the policy to report cases of sexual abuse to the Legal Department and do nothing else, then Candace would have never been molested in the first place. Therefore, she deserves every red cent of that money because she ended up being hurt due to their negligence.