LOL @ NeverKnew. Welcome to GB 3.0. Iam sure, the Watchtower might like to embrace kindle E-reader since some have 3G services accessible anywhere in the world.
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"New NWT" Nightmare
by NeverKnew init was horrible.
my home's porch has a capacity of about 8-12 people depending on how the chairs are arranged.
seemed like every seat was filled.
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IS YOUR TEACHING UP-TO-DATE? - (WT Study Article for June 3-9, 2013)
by Oubliette inin the watchtower study article for last week, june 3rd - 9th, 2013, the congregation was asked the question, "is your teaching up-to-date?".
there was a box on the top of page 9 that asked three questions allowing everyone to test themselves and find out if they had "up-to-date" and "accurate knowledge" in keeping with the "the ever-increasing light" as revealed through the pages of the watchtower magazine and related publications.
now at first blush this all sounds really good, but is it?
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600 people up and left the DC after the 'apostate' talk?
by Julia Orwell inan 'apostate' inactive jw in america i know on facebook went to the dc and said fully 600 people left between the end of the apostate talk and the lunch break.
have any of you who also went to the dc seen something like this happen?
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" Poisonous lies " ? " Smooth talk on the Internet " ? What do you have to hide WT Society ? Why are you so frightened of JW's seeking out information on the Internet ? Scared of skeletons that might come tumbling out of closets ? Mr. Flipper Very good questions. I think, this is an honor to all of us apostates. Why? Believe it, we are having an impact on the Watchtower false teachings
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My life ... and how JWD came to be - Part 5
by Simon inmy life ... and how jwd came to be - part 1. my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 2. my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 3. my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 4. i swear, i thought it was only a couple of years at most since i wrote part 4 of "my life and how jwd came to be".
i re-read it after someone posted to it and brought it back on active topics and it was kind of prophetic in a way ... well, i had the 5 years part right if nothing else:.
it would be nice to visit the site (or whatever one is around then) in 5 years time to let people know how we're doing and find only a few of the same people still around.
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Hi Simon,
can you put all your stories into one mightly and unbroken story? I had to upload it into my kindle for easy reading. Thank
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IN SEARCH OF CHRISTIAN FREEDOM By Raymond V. Franz
Raymond Franz, who died in early 2010, was a former Governing Body member of the Watchtower Society over Jehovah's Witnesses whom Watchtower disfellowshipped in the wake of discovering his sentiments for the Bible and Christ. He has written two great books about the Watchtower Society's elite top board group of men called the Governing Body. The first was Crisis Of Conscience which gave a lot of insider information or history, but his other book In Search Of Christian Freedom is also highly informative. To give just one example why, it exposed Watchtower's spying or stalking on pages 380-383 of the second edition dated 2007.
Franz has written that in 1986 Watchtower's branch office in Athens, Greece, disfellowshipped over one hundred former Jehovah's Witnesses who gave any signs of disagreeing with Watchtower teachings and policies. Although out of the Watchtower, some of the former Jehovah's Witnesses decided to meet and continue reading and discussing the Bible in private homes. As later proved by convictions in court, Greece's Watchtower branch office decided to stalk the former Jehovah's Witnesses. On April 6, 1987, about 50 people who were mostly former Jehovah's Witnesses Christians came together at the home of Nick and Eftihia Bozartzis. From a balcony Nick spotted two men watching the house so he went down to speak with them, one of whom he knew to be a Jehovah's Witness. They ran off. Shortly three of the 50 were disfellowshipped.On April 9 the former Jehovah's Witness fellowship or house-church was going to meet at the home of Voula Kalokerinou but the meeting had been canceled as the former Jehovah's Witnesses planned instead to meet to celebrate the Memorial or Last Supper on April 11. Voula spotted five people in a car stationed across from her house that evening and the next.
On April 11, the fellowship gathered to commemorate the Lord's last meal or supper at Voula's house. She saw an unknown car on one corner and a van on the other corner. The back window of the van was covered with paper except for a round circle in the center. The men in the car got out and went over to talk to the men in the van several times. Voula asked a person meeting in her home to go see what was going on. When he came toward the car, it sped away. He went around the back of the van and peered through the uncovered circular area inside of which were video camera equipment used by Watchtower-appointed Elder Nikolas Antoniou and Watchtower branch staff elder Dimetre Zerdes.
Other people from Voula's house gathered. A policeman from the nearby Italian Embassy came. The Jehovah's Witness elders drove off to a park, started unloading their video equipment but were arrested by police for invasion of privacy. The elders lied before a district attorney that they were only there to film a relative of Dimetre Zerdes. In reality his cousin Eftihia Bozartzis had disassociated herself from Jehovah's Witnesses two years before which, due to Watchtower's shunning policy, meant he was to have nothing to do with her.The District Attorney named Kontaxis said at the trial that Watchtower believes it is "God's channel, creates tremendous dependency on its members, thus (they) are directed to do everything to threaten and trample all that we call human rights." The confiscated film showed zoom shots of people entering the house and being on the balcony, Eftihia Bozartzis not even in the film.
The next year, Watchtower's magazine called Awake! blasted Greece's Orthodox Church for getting a stadium in Greece to cancel an assembly for JWs there. This may have been to make word of what Watchtower representatives' criminal conduct in Greece seem less believable to JWs when they finally might hear of it.
Franz notes "To this day, in all countries, any persons among Jehovah's Witnesses who find they cannot conscientiously support fully the organization's teachings or practices live in a climate of fear, felling they must constantly be on guard as to what they say, what they do, what they read, with whom they associate, from whom they receive letters, not feeling any sense of freedom even when among personal friends or close relatives if these are also Witnesses."Franz also noted that to keep Watchtowerites from discovering them and destroying their ties to Jehovah's Witness family and friends, some Jehovah's Witnesses who have contacted him have felt it necessary to use a different name, use a special post office box etc. Watchtower says that disagreeing Jehovah's Witnesses are "free" to leave, denies it spies on or verbally harasses, while also hiding that fact that after people have exited Watchtowerites, sometimes including staff as seen in this incidident too, have destroyed dissenters' normal ties to family and friends, acted to destroy their business ties and jobs.
http://masonemerson.freeyellow.com/christianwitnessescom/id219.html What I want is to obtain a copy of Court Transcript of the above proceeding in English Language if available to be posted here. Can someone in Athens, Greece with familiar account of this case help me?
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*Seriously* Considering A Billboard Ad?
by laverite ina full billboard ad in my area along a busy heavily travelled highway would cost about $500.
would probably get lots of attention and maybe even a news article, who knows.
$500 is cheap and easily affordable.
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Dat da da da: Justitia Themis Law School Graduate
by crmsicl incongratulations to justitia themis on all her hard work at putting herself through law school.
after being raised in the watchtower organization and having survived all of what that entails she has picked up the pieces, analyzed her strengths and has made choices to better herself and the community.. .
i am so proud of her.
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Justia, Congraculations and many ways to go. With our secular and professional education, we are putting to the watchtower to notice.
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Julia gets hit with the Shun Gun for the first time...and it really hurts.
by Julia Orwell inmy jw friend of 20 years, the first one i ever met, the one who got me into jwism in the first place, unfriended me from facebook without explanation.
other jws who have unfriended me at least called me names (apostate) and told me they were unfriending me, but they were no loss.
but someone who's been your friend since you were 13...and no explanation...i'd think 20 years- 20 years!
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Not really the true friends they claim go be. They are fakes ones. Its their loss not yours.
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Former Long Time Elder, New Member
by James Jackson ini have served 20 years as an elder, 5 years as an ms. was on the district committee in 2010, held various positions on the district , circuit, and rbc level.
probably been on more than 100 judicial committees and even an appeals committee.
was the coordinator in our congregation and deleted because adult child was df ( i kicked him out at the time of his wrongdoing, but that wasn't enough for thr brothers).
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Welcome but be careful. Try to exclude identifying characteristics in all accounts you will share with us. The watctower is an evil organisation with an ability to 'hit back' in kind for those that leave it.
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