Posts by Mattieu

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Who Knows about Voting Being a Conscience Matter?

by jamiebowers in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayoq98pt6js.

Mattieu

Hi JB,

The w/t (about 2 years ago I think) had an article stating that if you lived in a country (like me, in Australia) where it is compulsory to vote, if your conscience allows it, you can attend the voting booth and register to show that you have legally attended. Then if you decided to register a vote or abstain, well that is up to you. (Vote 1 Peter Griffin)

In Australia, we get fined for not voting if the Government does not accept your reason to not vote. The past 5 years has seen the Australian government start fining more & more jw's. So despite the w/t article highlighting that you can just go and register that you have been to the voting booth without actually casting a vote, 100% of j/w's here will still take the fine. I showed that article to an elder I was close with once and he said (despite how clear the article was written) that we would still refrain from going to a polling booth so as not to stumble anyone!

Yeah, well my fine is coming out of my congo donations then.....

mattieu

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How common is swinging among JWs?

by JimmyPage in

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my wife and i recently heard about two couples we know who switched partners in the past.

we then got to talking about a different couple we ate dinner with a while back who i thought gave off the vibe of wanting to swing.

my wife said she got that vibe too... thus the question: how common is this in wt-land?.

Mattieu

Roski, spot on!!!! His brother took my pioneer school (BH), I really liked him, great sense of humour and he liked Aussie rules footy.

Mattieu.,

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Pioneer School - Class Photo

by Mattieu in

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hi all, at the conclusion of my pioneer school we took a group photo with the instructors.

we had to chip in $$ to hire a professional photographer (who was a brother).

it is a custom with all pioneer schools in australia to take a class photo with the instructors (much like gilead photo).. do they do that in any other countries?

Mattieu

Hi all, at the conclusion of my Pioneer School we took a group photo with the instructors. We had to chip in $$ to hire a professional photographer (who was a brother). It is a custom with all pioneer schools in Australia to take a class photo with the instructors (much like Gilead photo).

Do they do that in any other countries? Or is that just a local thing here?? I look back at the pioneer school photo and hardly any of the pioneers in that class form the late 1980's are still active, let alone alive (see previous posting on suicide). I would love to post that pic, but it would identify me, so maybe later ion in time I will...

At my last MS school (2006 I think), we did the same thing, though I distinctly remember during the photo shoot that this would be the last MS school I would go to (serious doubts emerging).

Say cheese, Mattieu.

PS - If you were in a photo shoot (for the pioneer school that is), did they make you close your eyes and on the count of 1,2,3 open your eyes for the shot?? Our photographer said that is how they do the Gillead photo! I never looked at a Gilead photo again since without thinking of that comment... (A@G and ATJ, your comments please...)

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If they can shun......so can I

by KAYTEE in

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let me first say that i believe in god, in jesus and the holy spirit.

therefore to hear the watchtower liken us who have been df, ( in our case asking questions about u.n. paedophiles 607 etc ) liken us to the first apostate the devil i find them judgmental in the extreme, not surprised but very offensive.. thanks to "flipper" with his thread i have decided to ban my brother in law from coming to my home, this year he intends to come over from spain where the need is great, ............the wine.and the beaches very nice too.. he is going to visit his mother who now because of dementia lives with us.. he will not be allowed on my premises at all, he will pick mum up at the front gate.. as a witness you must accept what the so called boffins tell you.. therefore if he can align himself with thinking that way, of his sister and myself then he is not welcome.. i will only accept him in my home when he gets out of her (babylon the great).

kt.

Mattieu

ok, forget the wine (though I wont tonight). Just ask him what would Jesus do????? So many times when I was growing up (still am at the age of 40) elders, w/t and my mum used to say "what would Jesus do in this situation?" Now, they dont dare ask that question because the society is doing exactly the opposite of what Jesus would do.

Amen, Mattieu.

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Four Years Ago This Week

by AllTimeJeff in

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it was actually april 25, but that day will forever be etched in my head.

it was when the 119th class of gilead started.

it was my last real shot that i gave the borg.

Mattieu

ATJ, happy anniversary, like you I look back at poignant dates in my borg history and, well, just wonder..... (though I dont drink beer, more of a wine person myself )

Mattieu.

PS - Will look up the w/t when I get home from work (its now Tuesday 6:18pm, heading home now)

PSS - It sucks that the majority of the users on this site are in different time zones than me..... cant look up this site at home

PSS - It sucks more that the new system has not come yet..... (now thats one completely different time zone!)

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If they can shun......so can I

by KAYTEE in

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let me first say that i believe in god, in jesus and the holy spirit.

therefore to hear the watchtower liken us who have been df, ( in our case asking questions about u.n. paedophiles 607 etc ) liken us to the first apostate the devil i find them judgmental in the extreme, not surprised but very offensive.. thanks to "flipper" with his thread i have decided to ban my brother in law from coming to my home, this year he intends to come over from spain where the need is great, ............the wine.and the beaches very nice too.. he is going to visit his mother who now because of dementia lives with us.. he will not be allowed on my premises at all, he will pick mum up at the front gate.. as a witness you must accept what the so called boffins tell you.. therefore if he can align himself with thinking that way, of his sister and myself then he is not welcome.. i will only accept him in my home when he gets out of her (babylon the great).

kt.

Mattieu

Asilentone, what the wine part or the coercing part? If its the wine part, would that be because Spanish wine taste blahhhh? If so, let me send over a dozen PREMIUM Australian wines...

If what was the bit about the coercion, can we still do the wine part?

Mattieu

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staying awake for over 24 hours...only once for me...you?

by oompa in

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things become very surreal.............not many details for me....but i did cross center lane.....and nearly died in a head on..........you?.

Mattieu

I did it once, during a concluding prayer at a district convention.....

Mattieu

16

Have you heard

by John Doe in

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of the secret multi national plan to unify and socialize world governments?

in a recent top secret meeting held in switzerland that no one has access to and no one knew about, plans were discussed to develop computerized tracking and accounting devices that will be blood borne.

the "bug" is to be dissiminated through jet trails and a stronger version is to be included in mandatory childhood immunizations.

Mattieu

Hmmm,

The "bug" is to be dissiminated through jet trails

Just my luck, I was down at the pig farm near the airport yesterday feeding my swine when some fighter jets/A380's and 747's all took off at one time leaving me and my pigs clouded in this type of vapour trails you talk about.

Not feeling too good..................

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If they can shun......so can I

by KAYTEE in

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let me first say that i believe in god, in jesus and the holy spirit.

therefore to hear the watchtower liken us who have been df, ( in our case asking questions about u.n. paedophiles 607 etc ) liken us to the first apostate the devil i find them judgmental in the extreme, not surprised but very offensive.. thanks to "flipper" with his thread i have decided to ban my brother in law from coming to my home, this year he intends to come over from spain where the need is great, ............the wine.and the beaches very nice too.. he is going to visit his mother who now because of dementia lives with us.. he will not be allowed on my premises at all, he will pick mum up at the front gate.. as a witness you must accept what the so called boffins tell you.. therefore if he can align himself with thinking that way, of his sister and myself then he is not welcome.. i will only accept him in my home when he gets out of her (babylon the great).

kt.

Mattieu

Kaytee, what if he arrives bearing gifts? Duty free wine? At least take the pressies first, or open the wine, get him relaxed after a few drinks and coerce him into signing a document renouncing his beliefs as a jw.......

Mattieu - where the rain in spain always lands on the apostates.....

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Did you get sick after you went to an assembly ?

by greenhornet in

i always did.

it was like clock work a few days after.

bang sore throat sometime fever etc..

Mattieu

Everyone would, always coughs and colds and migraines (from the stress of parking 60 miles away from the assembly location and lugging prams and bags through mud and rain... ahh, good times!) No seriously, they used to pick an arena with car parking under cover for "privileged brothers" and the rest of us would battle each other for muddy car parking spots...

Mattieu.

PS - WO, I stopped shaking hands too. And oh, open mouth kissing as well, but that wasn't from the germ factor, it was based on strong counsel from the elders!