Hi Diana, my heart goes out to you I just watched my gran pass away 2 weeks ago at the age of 92, I feel not only what you are going through but the spiritual turmoil and questions as well
Cheers, Mattieu
she was 88. not a jw...so i guess she's in heaven?.
Hi Diana, my heart goes out to you I just watched my gran pass away 2 weeks ago at the age of 92, I feel not only what you are going through but the spiritual turmoil and questions as well
Cheers, Mattieu
i thought about this after reading flippers thread about how elders are appointed.
great thread by the way.. i can recall many times when guys were made elders, and sometimes even made ms that their personility would change almost over night.
i knew many nice, kind, elders and ms but many especially newly appionted ones would be, at times, just difficult to be around.
The majority go from being up themselves to total self righteous wankers...
Yeah, I cant stand them either, it began a long long time ago in a far away place where..........................................................................................................................................................................................................
i did not know where to start, but figured the personal experience section was a good place to begin.
won't bore you with all the particulars today....but i was raised in "it" (wont call it the truth, cause it ain't) from about 1968. baptized in 1985, faded about 2001.....woke up from the insanity after reading ray franz forbidden book a few years ago(crisis).
only sorry i did not read it earlier....but there was that fear factor instilled in me.
Hi Shawn, great to hear you and your wife have made it through together. Welcome. Cheers, Mattieu
i want to introduce myself.
i'm a 28 year old active, married jw from belgium.
in the preceding months (i'd say starting from about march) i've been slowly losing my faith.
Illuminator, welcome mate and all the best in sifting through the overwhelming thoughts that will be confronting you.... i look forward to wishing you a happy birthday soon! Cheers, Mattieu....
i found it amazing being raised in the witnesses to see exactly who got appointed sometimes as an elder.
it seemed that the criteria in my opinion had more to do with getting 10 hours a month in field service, answering at meetings, carrying microphones as a ministerial servant, or handling the magazine or literature counter !
in doing these " functions " and attending meetings on a regular basis - a man was thought to be considered " spiritually strong " and qualify to be an elder and serve on judicial committees judging people's personal problems.
All the above comments are true, esp the ones concerning brown nosing and family connections. Overall, here in Oz, the situation is as Man in Black stated - a boys club mentality!
in ballarat victoria, australia, under the floor of the garage in a little yard, it a pile of wt literature.. in 1974, expecting banning and persecution, mother and we 3 children dug a hole and buried bibles, watchtowers and god knows what.. i wonder if it is still there?.
took a look on google earth and the shed still stands!!!.
oz.
Hi Oz, we didnt hide it, though Mum would always point out perfect hiding spots should we come under persecution.... Plenty of old mine shafts in Ballarat! Cheers, Mattieu..
geez- does gossip spread in j dub land.
last night when i got home there was a message from a jw friend asking me to call her.
well, i did and she had heard that i had moved in with a "worldly" person and asked me how i was, etc... i asked her where she had heard that and she told me so&so told her.
Well hello & welcome Razkat! You have certainly chosen a novel way to introduce yourself - comment on posts from 8 & 9 years ago, you have a lot of catching up to do, see you in 2018! Cheers, mattieu....
PS - When I started lurking on this site, some of the old posts made more sense then if I had have read them when they were posted. Check out Lady Lees best of posts.. look forward to hearing your story...
but damm it can be tough on the outside!!
!.....hi old friends....it would be sooooo much easier if you work for a company...with normal people around you....but damm if you have your own biz for thirty years with five jw employees out of 15 that pretty much run your company.....well just crap!!
!....anyhwho.....good luck to all moving on....it can be a bitch...but it is worth it....and damm divorce is a bitch...and so is settlement...and so is fukkin alimony!!!!!!
Oompa & StAnn, LOL at both of you! No Im not a hot babe nor am I a swingin sailor! Whats long and hard and full of seamen? A submarine...
Look forward to checking out the 1932 beach house when I get over, could be a bottle of wild turkey or two coming through duty free ;-)
Cheers, Mattieu
but damm it can be tough on the outside!!
!.....hi old friends....it would be sooooo much easier if you work for a company...with normal people around you....but damm if you have your own biz for thirty years with five jw employees out of 15 that pretty much run your company.....well just crap!!
!....anyhwho.....good luck to all moving on....it can be a bitch...but it is worth it....and damm divorce is a bitch...and so is settlement...and so is fukkin alimony!!!!!!
infamous? Yes! oompa for the couple of years that I was a lurker before joinging a year ago, I always enjoyed your posts and shared your ups n downs. I hope your are in an ok place, as best can be.
If I ever get over to the old us of a, you will be the first I catch up.
Chin up, cheers, Mattieu....