It's odd.. I have noticed that within a few of the longer threads, someone brings up Hitler as a comparison point.. Then I remembered a Wikipedia article on just such an thing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
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i know some very sharp men and women that remain as jws and that perplexes me at times.
i even know of a jw whose daughter got molested by her jw ministerial servant uncle and she still believes this is the "truth", even though she took her family member to court and won!.
i don't get it..
It's odd.. I have noticed that within a few of the longer threads, someone brings up Hitler as a comparison point.. Then I remembered a Wikipedia article on just such an thing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
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my son got me hooked into playing.
i play about 2~4 hours a week (instead of watching tv - nothing good on anyway).
my son bails me out occasionally its nice having a personal cheat code.
I have noticed the "on topic" advertising here before.. some of it is pretty (shall we say) "funny"..
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my son got me hooked into playing.
i play about 2~4 hours a week (instead of watching tv - nothing good on anyway).
my son bails me out occasionally its nice having a personal cheat code.
My Son got me hooked into playing. I play about 2~4 hours a week (instead of watching TV - nothing good on anyway). My Son bails me out occasionally – Its nice having a personal cheat code. My Father on his last visit (who is still a Witness), saw us playing and was concerned with the Spiritism. Have any other players taken flack for playing these kind of Role Playing Games (RPGs)?
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what were some of the funniest things you heard a witness say he or she would like to do in the new word?.
the wife of the brother i studyed with said " in the new world im going to get a porpoise to teach me to swim.
of course i think a porpoise will have better things to do (like avoiding great whites) a than teach non swimmers to swim.. another sister some 20 years ago thought it best if she & her 2 small girls should have horse riding lessons to.
Several Witnesses I know think that everyone will run around naked. That's how Adam and Eve started out...
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" (matt.
(a) why are those conscious of their spiritual need happy?
meetings.--matt.
Pistoff, did you copy and paste from Microsoft Word? I have seen that copying from Word into flexible editors (like this one) will sometimes embed and "Object Tag" that some browsers dont like to render.
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over the years, in the congregations i have been in, there have been 4 different people with "perfume or cologne allergies.
anyway, they would always sit in the library, and at the bookstudy some years ago one sister would sit outside and comment through the window!
another sister would sometimes wear a white "surgical" mask in the hall.. the congregation i am attending now has a sister like that.
Yes, my Wife suffered significantly with asthma related perfume allergies every time she went to the Hall. We would always sit in the back classrooms or library to avoid it, usually - with little success. I would often have to take her home shortly after the meeting was half over. I am sure that her reaction “enhanced” by the stress of the situations – we had to go to the emergency room on more than one occasion. Over time she eventually gave up attending – and we faded…
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if you've taken sociology 101 or read sociology books, you've seen discussions of the functions holidays serve.
without consulting my textbooks, here are a few of them.
honor important eventsreaffirm cultural, social, or familial tiesrestexperience joyin essence---enjoy life and have strong ties to the community and family!.
I can attest to the lack of emotional lows. My mother passed away when I was 9. At no time was I allowed to grieve. I remember several neighbor kids asking me why I wasn’t sad and I told them I would see her real soon in the new order (this was around 1975, but that’s another story)… I was happy because I had knowledge of a hope that they did not. Unfortunately this was an unnatural process for me to go though. I didn’t realize the baggage that came with it until I was in my 20’s – My relationship with my Step-mother and other “mother figures” was skewed. I think that people deserve to be honored and mourned – it’s how our brains assimilate and sort out the emotions – drive us to perform better and cause us to reflect on losses.
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(please forgive the formatting - I'll figure out this editor yet...)
the jw academy post brought back my memories of going to a school run by jw's in the late 70's in hollywood fla. i went for 4 and 5 th grade.
i t was quite odd and i do believe i have suppressed most of my memories of it.
has anybody else ever heard of such a thing ?
I attended a “JW School” in the Los Angeles area back in the 70’s. My Dad (and most other witness parents) gave them a bunch of money to get it started. It worked for about 6 months until the Brother who formed it took off with the cash. The school closed – and I got to sit at home and watch re-runs of Gilligan’s Island for the rest of the school year. The next year, they started another school, which was mildly successful. Both schools were “odd” we had two types of kids there, the “goody-two-shoes” and the rejects. I’ll leave it to your imagination which camp I was in… Fortunately there was no brainwashing going on as there were no JW teachings preached, they even has non witness teachers. The secular education was bogus – Actually the whole thing was a grade school version of “Romper Room”. The following year, I begged my Dad not to send me back – So I went to “normal” public school. I am amazed that I didn’t get held back a year for that lack of education.
There is a “JW School” in Phoenix where my nieces go (I’m not sure of the name) and from what I understand that place is just as odd. My nieces get treated poorly because their Dad is DF’d (which is another reason we are fading). They might attend public school next year. It all comes down to extending the isolation from the “world”. By isolating the kids - there is this illusion of control/safety. If we let little Suzy attend public school, she’ll get pregnant and do drugs or worse… salute the flag…
Darth Fader..
i have been lurking in the shadows for a while now i just got my account from the fine administrators of this board.
i have really enjoyed reading the well thought out comments and critiques of the wts doctrine.. i have been around the wts since i was 5 i left for a while during high school got to live a little worldly/normal life then got sucked back in.
my wife has been raised in the truth and even though weve been inactive (for a while now), she still has thoughts about the earthly hope and seeing her grandparents some day.
You all are great! Yes, Quandry, my wife's asthma has improved since leaving. Nice Yoda Jokes there Hobo Ken
Thanks all for the warm welcome.
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i have been lurking in the shadows for a while now i just got my account from the fine administrators of this board.
i have really enjoyed reading the well thought out comments and critiques of the wts doctrine.. i have been around the wts since i was 5 i left for a while during high school got to live a little worldly/normal life then got sucked back in.
my wife has been raised in the truth and even though weve been inactive (for a while now), she still has thoughts about the earthly hope and seeing her grandparents some day.
Hello all!
I have been “lurking” in the shadows for a while now – I just got my account from the fine Administrators of this board. I have really enjoyed reading the well thought out comments and critiques of the WTS doctrine.
I have been around the WTS since I was 5 – I left for a while during High School – got to live a little worldly/normal life – then got sucked back in. My Wife has been raised “In the Truth” and even though we’ve been inactive (for a while now), she still has thoughts about the “earthly hope” and seeing her Grandparents some day. Being “outside” is a real struggle for her. So I’m looking for insights on how others have coped, and how they he rebuilt new Faith on a fresh foundation.
More back-story: My Wife and I started our slow fade out about 6 years ago. She has horrible asthma and even though we chose to sit in the back rooms to avoid perfumes and colognes, and attend the meetings, others would look upon us as antisocial. The lack of love slowly wore down my wife to the point she gave up on meetings. I took a more “rational” view of the organization and questioned a number of teachings including the “new light” of the “generation” changes. So, I’ll be lurking some more and putting in my .02 worth – not as eloquently as others here, but still bits and parts.
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