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  Have your prayers EVER been answered?

  by nicolaou in

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  have you ever prayed for something and actually gotten what you asked for?

  specific examples would be nice to hear about.. .

  nic'.

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  wantstoleave

  Love your stories Loz and Ann !!!
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  Is there a new 'rule' about disfellowshipping which can make it null and void?

  by whitman in

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  firstly, if anyone involved in this situation is reading this i hope i haven't overstepped the boundaries by raising this question here.

  i'll try to keep it as anonymous as possible.. so folks this is the situation.

  it has just been brought to my attention that during some type of shepherding call to a a disfellowshipped person who is experiencing serious mental illness as a result of the situation and the shunning from his family (his father is an elder), an interesting twist of events occurred.. one of the 'shepherding' elders asked the d.f-d person whether they had prayed and dedicated his/her life fully to jehovah before the baptism.

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  wantstoleave

  It would be great if that was the case, as so many DF ones would not be DF any longer. But I suspect it may just be that one elders opinion. He may perhaps take it to the BOE but I would think they'd stick with the DF. It could also be an upcoming rule so that they can lessen their statistics for the annual report on DF ones, to make the numbers look better.
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  holding hands in prayer thing

  by bez in

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  ... is this "no holding hands in prayers" law really true???

  i have not heard of this before?

  when did this happen?

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  wantstoleave

  There is also an unwritten rule about not holding hands with your fiance (least in my area it was anyway). Until you're married you aren't allowed to hold hands, sit with them at meetings etc. Of course there was always the odd one who went against this and next meeting was back sitting with his/her family. I hated that 'rule' because days out from my wedding, my parents wouldn't allow me to hold hands with my partner. Then the new rule about holding hands, embracing in the KH was out too.

  JW members on a whole aren't all that lovey dovey in the KH anyway, but to ban holding hands?! I heard some say that to single ones, especially single sisters, seeing a couple hold hands could be very upsetting, thus to refrain from showing any affection. For goodness sake, do they not see couples holding hands at the store? At the movies? Out and about? Surely they can restrain themselves from getting upset at seeing others in love?
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  HELP REQUEST - Judicial Committee Hearing tonight!

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

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  i hate to ask you good folks to jump around but the first post in the thread below explains why i'm going into the jc meeting, hence the basis for my questions below.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/198636/1/reply-to-judicial-committee-question-thenoblelodge.

  i have no idea how to present my witnesses.

  they've already agreed to show up.

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  wantstoleave

  The worst part I found in a JC is the going away and coming back in 10mins while they discuss their verdict I hated how they took notes also, I had no idea that would occur. Everything I said was put on paper and probably filed away somewhere . The hardest part for me to suck up was the fact that even though I hadn't been at fault, I had to take the private reproval on the chin and smile and thank them for it . If there is ever a next time, I'll be armed with pad and pencil and making sure I don't answer anything I don't feel comfortable with. Either that or not turn up at all. My life is my life and I shouldn't have to answer to 3 men who think they know what's best for me in terms of salvation.

  Please let us know how your JC went.
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  Spiritual spies

  by Joey Jo-Jo in

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  i have been reading coc and isocf in the train every morning and noticed some funny stuff occurring.. .

  this witness (i knew because i have seen her before reading jw literature, she probably saw me as well before reading a jw book but we never spoke), she spotted somehow and knew that i was reading apostate books, i was on the far left of the train and she was on the far right, i have good peripheral vision and noticed her having a good look at me ( to advise the spiritual policemen) and when i turned my head to the right she would quickly look away, this happened on two occasions.. .

  after a week or so i was sitting in the same spot and on the far left there was another women who i had never seen before, i didnt noticed her at all until i heard the noise of camera taking a picture (most likely a mobile making the noise of a camera when taking a picture, which most do), again i turned my head around to the right and she somehow magically fell asleep in an instance, one second she is taking a photo the other shes asleep ahahah.. .

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  wantstoleave

  Oh dear! If she was taking a photo, that's invasion of privacy right? I'd expect your parents and you will be expecting a shepherding call soon . She was obviously getting 'proof' of you reading 'apostate' literature. Let us know what else happens.
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  Women as weaker vessel - explain?

  by Libelle in

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  ok, the mr. constantly rolls his eyes and tells me i just don't understand anytime any of his literature shows up with something along the lines of "women are the weaker vessel.

  " apparently (at least in his own little mind), it does not mean women are these delicate, breakable, weaker things, but something else... something more subtle.

  anytime he's ever explained it to me (which has been a few years, i reckon), it's come out sounding like reason for women being second class citizens... is he just putting his own spin on it?

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  There will always be men who abuse the term 'weaker vessel' just as much as there will be men who adore their wives and treat them with utmost respect. I have heard many JW men use the phrase 'I am the head of the house, you'll do as I say' and it always irritated me. The articles usually tell the husband to discuss things with his wife but that ultimately, it's HIS decision and the wife must abide and dutifully follow. Then why discuss it in the first place? If HE has the final say, what's the point?

  Then there's the other extreme where some men don't make any decisions at all, don't care to discuss things and leave everything to the wife. They are happy with that but from personal experience, maybe a female thing, but generally women like to talk things out, get both points of view and then make an informed decision. I don't see why in a JW marriage both partners can't discuss things and make a joint decision. Of course sometimes there will be disagreements but love and respect should come out the winner, even if one has to yield.

  I've always thought the term 'weaker vessel' was leaning more towards a woman's fragile emotional makeup. Example hormonal changes pre-period, during a period, menopause and the challenges of pregnancy, birth and raising a family. But I do believe some have extended that to enabling JW men to overshadow their wives, placing emphasis on power rather than respect.
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  Strange YPA article: Should I quit school?

  by serenitynow! in

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  2. bible

  the november 2010 awake (the atheist issue) has a ypa article that seems strange to me.

  it is about whether or not a kid should drop out of school.

  the way that it's written makes it seem that dropping out of school, (not college) is ok under some circumstances.

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  wantstoleave

  This was REALLY in a latest magazine?! In JW terms, if this system were to continue, getting an education is crucial. Without it one would be in dire straits. Next thing we know they'll be telling JW women to not get an education at all, to just marry and care for hubby
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  Alot has Changed and I'm going BACK

  by Butterflyleia85 in

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  i bet people has forgotten me but thats ok because i know they have helped me a lot on here.. .

  anyways i think the last time i been on here i mentioned my jw sister not going to my wedding.

  for those that do remember my story, the wedding was beautiful on the beach in key west, fl!

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  wantstoleave

  I wish you all the very best but I am a little afraid for you. I worry how this decision will affect your new marriage and also how your deep feelings about the religion come to the fore once you get past the 'love bombing' by the congregation. I hate to be pessimistic but I've been there and done that and after a while, it all become monotonous again and you begin to wish you'd never set foot back in the hall. To be reinstated to do a fade, well, I can see the logic for the simple fact of keeping your family on side. But other than that, I don't see the point. I do however wish you much happiness in whatever you ultimately decide.
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  Should I give my JW nephew a birthday card?

  by serenitynow! in

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  wantstoleave

  You could call him on the day and talk about the milestone of 16, even if you don't actually wish him a happy birthday. My parents have always acknowledged our birthdays, without actually saying 'happy birthday'...lol.
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  Is Shunning a Form of Bullying?

  by I quit! in

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  if it were done by a group of children in school to another student the school would consider it a form of bullying.

  are dubs bullying other dubs when they do this?

  to me it seems like a form childish behavior that you would only expect to see in grade school..

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  wantstoleave

  Definitely! It's harassment in the worst form because it isolates a person from everything they know and love.