Need more to comment. Except, I bet your a bad boy still
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
i have been a poster on this board for several months.
i will first let you peer into my childhood.
i want you to know my psyche.
Need more to comment. Except, I bet your a bad boy still
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
i never knew cos were apostles.
they really have gone over board with these jw references.
during a talk a brother referred to the men at the gatse of the cities of refuge as 'elders' to 'judge.
I never knew COs were Apostles
They really have gone over board with these JW references. During a talk a brother referred to the men at the gatse of the cities of refuge as 'Elders' to 'Judge.' Where in the Bible does it call them Elders?
And since when are COs anointed Apostles and as great as Paul? I'm sick of them equating the COs to Paul. I just want to laugh when I here all these stupid self glorifying references.
Then, what about Deborah the prophetess and judge? They seem to forget that Deborah was a woman judging Israel.
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
i had this at kents and there were several thoughtful and interesting replies.
however, i would like to read some more.
actally abaddon asked me this question and started me to thinking.......... so i wrote back this: .
There are many reasons why an individual leaves. This one incident is what I think was the beginning of my doubting phase. I have many more stories to tell as well.
What do you think was the beginning of this phase for you?
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
i don't know if these have been brought up in the past, but during my study i discovered these:.
please tell me what you think and then i'll let you know whether my imagination has been playing tricks on me!.
ok, here's the very first page of the book, look in the red square and tell me what you think:.
what are you seeing? what are we suppose to be looking at?
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
i had this at kents and there were several thoughtful and interesting replies.
however, i would like to read some more.
actally abaddon asked me this question and started me to thinking.......... so i wrote back this: .
I had this at Kents and there were several thoughtful and interesting replies. However, I would like to read some more.
Actally Abaddon asked me this question and started me to thinking.......... so i wrote back this:
I stared to study a 19 yrs old while attending uni' and dropped because of the 'Truth'. This was difficult because I came from an affluent Catholic family and was expected to at least attain a masters level. My brothers all attended Ivy Leage schools and I was in a decent art school in NY. So this didn't go over well with my family.
While studying with the JWs I met my husband and he started to study . We wound up getting baptized then married in the same year. We've been in ten years.
I was an atheist when I started to study. Strange how things come full circle. I still have faith in Jah. I've just lost my faith in humans; they've always disappointed me.
I think my doubts started when our Po's son attempted suicide and he was treated by his parents and two brothers like the families dirty little secret, unworthy of their status. He has bipolar-Major depressive disorder. His parents told him and loudly proclaimed to all that their sons would all pioneer and then go
to
bethel after high school or they must leave her home. He was never allowed to find his own idenity and rejected the forced idenity his parents intended for him. Mind you, he was not given a way to support himself even though his father is a business executive. They don't believe in 'higher education.' His parents would have had to pay for his college. I think this had someting to do with it as well. Now he delivers pizza sometimes.
His parents told him to DA and move out at 19, so daddy could keep his elder status. Well this young man has now been in and out of jail and the psyche ward for several years now. He's on a path of self destruction because he has the black and white mentality. Either I'm good and acceptable or I'm bad and unworthy. I was in a state of rage as I watched them damage him as a human being. They clearly scapegoated him. I sat
in
their living room for the book study and noticed his picture was removed after he DA'd. It was difficult to be around these people. I was a walking about in a rage over this and other things. So, I know about anger. People have been fearful of my anger. That's why I'm aware of it and even sensitive to anger. What really bothers me is when I see others being hurt. I've worked through the anger and I'm ready to move on from that place.
Now that I think about it it was the DF and DA policies that started to make me doubt. It's so unjust and unloving.
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
i don't know if any of you really want to hear this, so if not please stop reading here.. i told a few of you about a guy i have been seeing for the past few months.
well, i found out that he has been seeing other women, and i spoke to him last night and tried to break it off with him.
he didnt want to hear it.
Congratulations your living your signature *clapping for Lil*
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
while doing a little surfing this morning, i stumbled onto this site.... http://home.earthlink.net/~michaelhenry/.
and while the information presented has been covered here before...i wanted to bring it up again, for the new members, and to all of us really.
even now, being "out" , i still wonder as i got to the doctors for various tests and proceedures, what if?
Gopher said:
The people, at heart, are looking for rules rather than for thoughtfully-applied principles.
So true!I got a ranked by a 'bethlite elder's wife' (some title) for this same comment. "Were you raised in the truth" She meant to say "you don't know what your talking about." What I should have said was: "No,I'm not programed like you. I can think for my self thank you"
I already decided that if a JW comes into detox then their sobriety and health must come first. Anonymity, trust and love are what the addict hasn't known in his life. Maybe he will find it in AA/NA.
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
from the encyclopedia of heresies and heretics by leonard george.. under the section on jw's.... some members have seriously considered the possibility that popular singer michael jackson (who was once a jw himself) is the archangel michael in (very effective) disguise, preparing to inaugurate the end of history.
really??????????????????????????????????
?
I think I'll run out and buy that Encyclopedia! Such accurate information. Maybe the people that study URANCHA believe that pedophile is the Archangel Michael.
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
the united methodists church has embarked on a new television campaign.
if they weren't such hate-filled idiots, the watchtower society could learn a lot from it.. the message ends with:.
"open hearts, open minds, open door".
The KKK primarily came out of the Methodist church.
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
a couple of threads lately made me start to wonder about the cost of things around the world.
lisa's thread on saving money for one.
i just went to the store today.
It's a little cheaper where I live presently in NY, but a house like that where I grew up, closer to the city, is worth about 800,000-1mil US. It would depend on neighborhood and condition of the house, maybe more. Prices went up when Clinton moved to town from the White House. His house is worth about 2 mil and he only has an acre and a 100 yr old 5,000 sq foot house.
I'm presently further away from the city and a house like that would be about 350-400,000 US.
Food and gas prices are about the same or a a little more.
Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.