((((((ANA)))))))WB
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"The only good elite are dead elite!!"-Naeblis
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we can't!
there are issues we all have in our lives and i know that belonging to a cult has fucked us up more than we realize.
but we attack each other, call each other names, hate each other, and yet there is not a one of us who would not come to my resuce if i needed your help!!
((((((ANA)))))))WB
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"The only good elite are dead elite!!"-Naeblis
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we can't!
there are issues we all have in our lives and i know that belonging to a cult has fucked us up more than we realize.
but we attack each other, call each other names, hate each other, and yet there is not a one of us who would not come to my resuce if i needed your help!!
KJV If you are really living program then "live and let live." Your Judgmental attitude tells on you and your dry drunk state. I'm not saying this as an attack but as a reality check.
Do some prayers and meditation then do YOUR fourth step over again. Stop taking other peoples inventory over such personal issues as their sexuality.
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"The only good elite are dead elite!!"-Naeblis
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No way Ring not if she's seen your PIC..*Huba Huba*
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"The only good elite are dead elite!!"-Naeblis
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(((((((((((((Wendy)))))))))))))))))))))
You have a reprieve??? I'm, so glad you back
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"The only good elite are dead elite!!"-Naeblis
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i remember a popular idea that often surfaced in informal discussions among the jws in my congregation, especially back in the 70ies:.
(this was in norway, and please remind that the evangelical-lutheran church is a national church and that ca 95% of population are members.).
"the priests know that we have the truth!".
Hi Atreyu,
I love your posts here and in other places.
This is a very common misconception of many JWs. It is interesting that I have known some clergy to utilize WT literature and this may reinforce this concept for some JWs. My husband once studied with a Catholic Monk and this Monk used The Greatest Man book for classes he taught at the Monastery. I also know a Baptist minister that openly admitted he "gleaned" ideas from the WT. So, these little incidence of individuals using WT literature develop into urban legends. The Jws then say, "They ALL know we have the TRUTH."
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"The only good elite are dead elite!!"-Naeblis
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on your way out, did you have the 'talk' with an elder?
(or elders?
) the kind of, 'excuse me, brother only-elder-who-i-really-trust, i've been having serious doubts about such-and-such and i would really appreciate it if you could help me see if i'm missing something, i sincerely want to know...'.
If that were a realistic option for many they may never have totally left the org for family reasons. Since one can't ask questions about their doubts it becomes a factor for many leaving in the first place. It provides a spring board for leaving.
The fact that you can't ask reasonable questions, without consequences, only demonstrates how they are a cult. Since expressing doubts only leaves one open to apostasy accusations and extreme shunning.
WB Moxy
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"The only good elite are dead elite!!"-Naeblis
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was reading zenpunk's thread about how it seems ex jw's go over the deep end and i tend to agree.
i think that is normal after being repressed for so long.. however, it would sure be nice if we had more than one chat room here.
i have visited the chat several times and it seems that usually (not always) it is about who was the drunkest, who had sex with someone, who is a lesbian, etc etc etc.
imissthedub:
It's a good thing you can't read the IM IN going on...hehehe
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"The only good elite are dead elite!!"-Naeblis
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as many of you know, i have difficulty at times forming the words to encapsulate completely my entire experience with the jehovah's witnesses.. there will follow some of the observations i have personally made down through the years.
my involvement with the wt.
the effects this had on my psychological development.
(((((((((Celty))))))))))
Thanks for sharing! I didn't know you lost your family...
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"The only good elite are dead elite!!"-Naeblis
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this article was in today's desert and pass edition of the press-enterprise (riverside, ca, usa).
it doesn't appear on their website.
i typed the article verbatim.
This is so very sad that the fear of being shamed would bring a person to murder. Then it's a shame that people shame one another over something as natural as pregnancy.
I actually know a Dub that murdered a baby she was baby sitting. The baby died from shaken baby syndrome. Initially she lied about shaking the baby so they couldn't even help the baby. She was sentenced with manslaughter 4-10 yrs.
I can't post articles because it could give my identity away to lurkers. Besides it was never mentioned in the newspapers that she was a JW.
She was repentant and even the parents noted that they didn't believe she intended to kill their baby. However, they understandably want her to serve the maximum time. The elders only reproved her and she is basically not visited in prison by anyone from the cong.
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"The only good elite are dead elite!!"-Naeblis
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there are times when ilook back fondly on my days in the witnesses, especially when i think on the congregation get togethers we would have every once in awhile (not too often) people from our hall and sometimes others would show up (not too many) and good times were had by all.
this is how the schedule usually went.. 8pm: arrive at the community centre.
8:05pm: scope the room.
I miss all the stimulating conversations...[8>]