evidently he placed the first humans directly on a major earthquake zone, responsible for 17% of the worlds largest quakes.. see january 2011 watchtower page 5..
God was created by man. Man is stupid (and yet, also the smartest of creatures on the planet). Therefore, it should come as no suprise that God is also stupid. Only through carefully documented experimentation and observation do we have any hope of rising above the weaknesses of our neural architecture.
Unless you are the type that really believes there are 'waters above' and light was created before the sun...
- Lime
my family knows that i post on this forum (they have a packet of print outs of topics i have started) and they know about my videos on youtube.. they have made a demand that i cease all internet communication with the apostate community and then they will have me back.. i have refused.. they say i am a narcissist because i am ignoring the feelings of my family because they are very hurt by the things i am doing on the internet and speaking out against the religion.. interesting since they had to search out my posts and videos to gather evidence of apostasy.. -sab.
but there can only be one truth! and IMO Jehovah's witneesses have it in accordance with God's word.
So you claim JW's have absolute truth? (You just said they have the 'one truth'.) That is trivial to disprove.
In 1980, had you refused to accept the idea that the "generation" started in 1914, and those people would be alive to see 'the end' - you would have been disfellowshiped.
Yet we know now that that teaching was false. It was not Truth. The time came and went, and their interpretation of scripture was wrong. It was a false understanding, a false teaching.
Yet "Jehovah's people" would have disfellowshipped you - for not believing a false teaching (they would call it something else, but that's the net effect.)
Now go on - re-define 'one truth' to include "multiple truths" spanning multiple generations. That's what you are doing in your head right now.
- Lime
EDIT: I removed 'be a good little JW' - that was condensending, and wrong. It is the Watchtower I oppose, not it's people. My appologies.
my family knows that i post on this forum (they have a packet of print outs of topics i have started) and they know about my videos on youtube.. they have made a demand that i cease all internet communication with the apostate community and then they will have me back.. i have refused.. they say i am a narcissist because i am ignoring the feelings of my family because they are very hurt by the things i am doing on the internet and speaking out against the religion.. interesting since they had to search out my posts and videos to gather evidence of apostasy.. -sab.
That is simply not true, we think we are doing a life-saving work according to the bible which is the one giving humankind the ultimatum not us.
Which part isn't true?
So what is it - 1, 2, or 3?
- Lime
my family knows that i post on this forum (they have a packet of print outs of topics i have started) and they know about my videos on youtube.. they have made a demand that i cease all internet communication with the apostate community and then they will have me back.. i have refused.. they say i am a narcissist because i am ignoring the feelings of my family because they are very hurt by the things i am doing on the internet and speaking out against the religion.. interesting since they had to search out my posts and videos to gather evidence of apostasy.. -sab.
The question is why do you have to be so actively apposed to witnesses?
"We're Jehovah's Witnesses. Anyone who is not a witness is automatically evil and deserves to be killed. And don't you DARE say anything negative about us!"
You so actively oppose everyone not JW that you consider genocide a justified solution. Damn, Debator, how can you not see how blatently hypocritical JW's are?
LOL, you make your faith clear foolishness.
- Lime
just had 2 elders invite me to my judicial meeding about my marriage of two years.
they think my husband was not legaly divorced.
but he was and i had 3 lawyers tell me he was.
They do... they want me to be humiliated more! I will never ever do that again!
Yeah, don't do it to yourself. I'm not one for religion - but if anything it should bring comfort, not condemnation.
Take care.
- Lime
just had 2 elders invite me to my judicial meeding about my marriage of two years.
they think my husband was not legaly divorced.
but he was and i had 3 lawyers tell me he was.
What do they want, pictures? Some kind of dirty stories?
That's exactly what they want. They want Found Sheep to go to the meeting, break down crying in front of them, and confess to anything and everything they want. They want to have Found Sheep under their thumb again.
Such "breaking sessions" give the alpha males an ego boost. When my ex went to her JC, all she would say afterwards was that she would "never step foot in a kingdom hall again", that she could "never look at those men again", and that it was the most "degrading, humiliating thing" that had ever happened to her. Incidentally, they decided not to DF her - apparently because she was a 'good little girl' and told them every juicy detail of the incident (if she refused, they'd DF her and her family wouldn't speak to her again.)
"Shepherds" indeed.
- Lime
i think if an (intelligent) questioning jw was able to read the letter about coil binding the book the impact could/should be greater.
this letter should be an embarrassment to the gb.
what blatant and stupid instructions sent to a large group of men who are supposed to be available to instruct in an intelligent way persons coming with an assortment of life's problems.
sisters are not permitted to do this work
I love little gems such as that... I think they pretty well summerize the level of sophistication behind the WT leaders and their "god":
"Girls are ICKY!! This is secret boy stuff!"
- Lime
i'm a long-time lurker (and hopefully successful fader) who finally took the jump and registered on jwd.
thank you all for the great information over the years!.
as you can tell by my username, i'm a big weezer fan.
Ha ha ha. Totally intentional. Freaking awesome.
- Lime
page #1. .
many today, more notebly, the religious leaders of this world, and their followers, feel that they can do a mere cursory, superficial reading of the bible, and from that, set forth their hard and fast interpretations of the holy writings.
but is it really all that easy, to understand the holy scriptures, to get 'the breadth, length, heigth, and depth,' of everything written; in order to be 'rooted and established on the foundation, to 'grasp mentally,' with all the holy ones?
The original post is in 3D if you wear your anachrome 3D glasses.
(In other words.. what's up with all the blaring red and blue text? It is extremely uncomfortable to read such as it is... so I didn't. Was this just a copy/paste of the WT book? Was it a commentary? The world may never know.)
- Lime
art!.
what the hell is it?.
i can't tell you what it is, but, i can tell you what i think it does.. art changes you.. it stops you cold in your tracks.. when you finally walk away from it you keep on thinking about it.. you can't shrug it off easily.. it's now a different world for you.. .
Trying to explain art to someone who doesn't understand it is like trying to explain the color 'blue' to a blind man. Listening to someone explain it as "movies, popcorn, politics, and virgin birth" is pretty much...
Art and art appreciation are a function of the right-brain. There is no progressive one-step-at-a-time logic in the way we are accustomed from the left brain. Tell your left brain to shut the f* up and see art for what it is. We each have to find our own taste for art - beyond that I see little value in over-analyzing it.
One second you're contemplating if a movie can be art - the next sentence it's... politics. I'd say you failed to establish the relevant connection there.
- Lime
