Several things, one the constant insistence that they and only they were right. 607, the change from Christ's coming in 1874 to 1914, the denial of the prophecy of 1975. The saying of the meetings are free, and then the the constant wanting of money. They, the elders, didn't really care about the rank and file witness. The constant drive to go out in the door to door fiasco. You could never do enough. just to name a few.
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Was it the doctrine or the control that woke you up?
by Evidently Apostate ineven though i knew some of the doctrines were so convoluted they couldnt be genuine, every prophecy mentioned in the bible was simplistic and direct i still felt it was the best place to raise a family.
i felt like i could ignore the hypocrisy, manipulative and fake personalities and still have true friends and unbreakable family bonds.
even though my concience would bother me i would always try to forgive.
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Who is Homeschooling - what works and does not?
by skeeter1 inmy in-laws really wished they had taken control and homeschooled their one granchild.
today, i witnessed a middle school bus stop bully and another group of teenaged girls smoking something illegal.
my 5th grader is headed to middle school next year.
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My daughter is currently on home bound studies and is excelling. She had missed two weeks of school, was behind and within on week of home bound studies she not only caught up. but really likes it, the quiet, no interference from others talking and fooling around has really focused her on her school work. She is now appling for Texas Tech University Independent School District on-line studies. Now think how much better that will look to have a diploma from Texas Tech University Independent School District. She doesn't miss public school at all, and wants to stay in home bound if she can't get into TTUISD (but she will be accepted her grades are will above normal).
By enrolling in TTUISD she can study anywhere and really concentrate on her studies.
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Is the Oct 30 WT study a Prelude to a Tithing towards the Soc.
by Quarterback init felt weird discussing this topic this week about this term, "share" of the levites.
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some made comments that alluded to the financial assistance that we are currently doing towards sponsoring the bethels around the world.. i wouldn't be surprised that a new thought comes out soon about that ten percent rule.. .
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they always want our money, i remember when first studying and they were telling us that the meetings were free and that no one ever asks for money, surprise, surprise when fully indoced found out that they always were asking for it only in terms that could be deceptive and denied when questioned. Like I had said in an earlier post they are no better than the Pass the loot ministries.
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What percentage of assmbly experiences are total fabrication?
by NoRegrets inwhen i was in 4th grade, i ended up in a situation involving minor school politics.
they had developed a "student council" which did little more than sell pencils at lunch time for fundraisers.
anyway, i was appointed by the teacher and didn't think much of it as an 8-9 year old.
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It's easy to fabricate or at least not tell an experience truthfully. elder smelder is given the experiences for the ca, so desperately seeking to find someone with a legitimate experience worth telling.
Finally out of desperation he talks to bro and sis idiotic and ask them in a pleading voice if they have anything anything at all that he can use as an expereince.
Bro and Sis Idotic finally think of something and tell the elder that when they were camping in northern california they were able to place 10 mags with a group of young men who were camping up there, and that they were real happy to have them and thanked Bro and Sis idiotic. So Bro and Sis idiotic were able to give a good witness and were sure that the mags would be put to good use and fill them with knowledge of the bible. The Bro and Sis were some what downhearted when they found out what the mags were being used for and why they were accepted. Telling the elder this he cautioned them to just tell the good parts leave out the whole truth.
Well the real truth of the matter was that, these young college students had run out of toilet paper, and being desperate for some they were even willing to talk with the dubs camped just down from them, and when the dubs offered the mags the college students were elated, now they would have something to wipe with. They thanked the Bro and Sis profusely, and then some of them promptly after the dubs had left started tearing pages apart and put them to use.
The mags were dually used in that they could read them while sitting on the can and then use them for what they really were nothing but mere asswipes, and that is the real truth of the matter.
see while not all experiences are full fabrication (as i'm sure a lot are) tell a little bit of truth with the big lie and convince yourself you are really telling the truth but don't forget to take your notes with you so you can check them so you don't forget.
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What percentage of assmbly experiences are total fabrication?
by NoRegrets inwhen i was in 4th grade, i ended up in a situation involving minor school politics.
they had developed a "student council" which did little more than sell pencils at lunch time for fundraisers.
anyway, i was appointed by the teacher and didn't think much of it as an 8-9 year old.
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what is unique is that an experience a nonwitness husband had many years ago. Witnesses were not allowed into Military housing, and yet there we no gates or entry points into the housing. The husband trying to help his wife (why why why)went to the base police inquiring why they weren't allowed, got the answer that the military housing authority wouldn't allow it, butttttt if you can get them to okay it and let us know we will be good with it. Well the husband spent many a time cajoling the housing authorty (bitch by the way) until finally she relented. He took a letter from them to give to the MPs and asked them to also call the officer in charge and let him know it will be alright for the dubs to go d-t-d there. Well eventually they were allowed. Now the unique part sitting at a CA with his wife the husband hears a brother up there (elder by the way) who takes credit for the whole thing. Stood up there an lied his ass off about it. My wife was incredulous, unfortunatelfy she was also self deluded about what she should do so she just kept quiet. The PO of the cong. finally came to the husband and apoligized saying it wouldn't have looked good for a nonwitness to go up there and relay that experience so elder smelder was chosen to do it. What a lying bunch of scum bags those people were, and it's unfortunate that most of the experiences are pure Bs or given to someone else to give.
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Knocking on Doors vs. Televangelism
by Band on the Run ini was watching a tv show that made me think about why the witnesses insist on door-to-door work "in this age of mass communication," to quote jesus christ superstar.
did they not have a radio station at one time?
i remember hearing about it and about the dj becoming too popular so he was axed.
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The question remains that if all the mags not used in the d-t-d BS aren't used, who is it paying for them, I don't believe for even a second that the bitchtower lets them go for nothing. Sooooooo who pays for them. The congregation is what i believe.
Remember the PTL Ministeries? Jim and Tammy Faye?, well that is what the Bitchtower is to the congregations PTL (pass the loot) publishing company.
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Knocking on Doors vs. Televangelism
by Band on the Run ini was watching a tv show that made me think about why the witnesses insist on door-to-door work "in this age of mass communication," to quote jesus christ superstar.
did they not have a radio station at one time?
i remember hearing about it and about the dj becoming too popular so he was axed.
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The door-to-door ministry, keeps the dubs busy, they always say see at Matt. 28: 19,20 blah blah blah but they never read it in context. Jesus was telling this to the 11 apostles, not every tom dick, harriet etc. that were his followers. That is why they had special powers ala Benny Hinn (yeah right) Their inflated opinion of themselves is nauseating at best.
The WTBTS use this to make $$$, you donate for the "free" magazines, and by god if you get a donation for them, they want that too. Like most things in business and politics it's follow the money. Most in the door to door work, don't realize they are being used period. It's a publishing company and if you aren't out in the "field ministry" and having to do so, then you won't be using as many mags as needed to keep the pub company in business. The more door to door workers donating for magazines makes money for the WTBTS publishing corp. It has always been a money maker for them, and thus they will never end it for a more logical way to get the word out.
The first century christians used the only means they had at their disposal for getting the word out, Radio, Tv, the internet etc didn't exist. What were they suppose to do paint scriptures on Camels asses as they crossed the desert in Caravans. Paint on animals sides and asses to get the word out. Would have been a lot of pissed off shephers, caravaners, farmers etc. if their animals had been painted. And lets not forget that most people of the word at that time just like the apostles with the exception of Paul were illiterate unable to either write or read, and that is directly contrary to the the pics put out by the society showing them carrying around paprus scrolls like they were supposedly reading the bible.
follow the money folks, that's why the d=t=d exists.
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An Old Argument.... does it hold water?
by AK - Jeff inestimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.
that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.
still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.
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trust God just which one are you talking about, many countries have different Gods and asking them to ignore them and honor just your god borders on the ridiculous. Starvation is terrible, but people are saying we can fix it, well that is just BS, we can't, you would have to get all peoples world wide to participate and that just isn't going to happen.
How in the heck can one even get the political entities of the world to cooperate? It just won't happen, i try and do my part in helping those in need and have been supporting 7 different familes for over 30 years. It began as the Parents, then the kids, and now am supporting grandkids. Believe me they are very appreciative, If it wasn't for my help who knows what would have happened to them? so if one is concerned about peoples situational starvation well step up to the plate and start helping out individual familes, it won't cure starvation, but it will help some eat and live better.
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Taking Back the Holidays
by Quendi inwith canada having observed its own thanksgiving day, i am reminded that the holidays are approaching beginning with halloween and terminating with twelfth night on 5 january.
this will be an interesting holiday season for me.
when i became one of jehovah's witnesses, i gave them all up of course.
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quendi good for you celebrate, and while your at it, remember to celebrate breaking free from the borg.
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Definition of "Negativity" according to JWs
by LongHairGal ini recently had a falling-out with a jw which i won't go into because it is nonsense really.
in one of the pathetic retorts i was told i was "negative".
this wasn't the first time i heard this from a jw over the years.. what i have noticed is that it is because i spoke about real life situations in the world and/or problems and wrong things in the religion.
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One way to get them to view you in a negative light is to start talking about shooting, and the guns and bows you may have and how much fun it is to go plinking. You can actually feel the negative feelings they start to have for you, and then some idiot will bring up that we aren't suppose to have such things because they are violent.
Many in some congregations think hunting is tatamount to murder, yet they go out and eat steak, porkchops, etc but can't stand the fact that you go out and hunt your own meat.
I use to love inviting some to come and go plinking or target shooting with me and you would be amazed at the look on their faces, it would be like you suddenly turned into a werewolf or something, funny to say the least. And yet they all want the big Trib and armageddon to come and kill off most of the people on the earth. Talk about hyprocites.