as mentioned in an earlier post, we had a needs talk on not getting enough donatins for the mags, dvds, etc and were one and all encouraged to donate more to help make up the cost of "printing" this drivel. yeah they definitely want their money. as for the CAs and SAs and DCs they the WTBTS get a donation sent to them prior to the event even ending. then the crying that we are short i.e. $4,000 something and if you look it's pretty close to the amount that they donated to the scammers in Crooklyn.
ssn587
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I have a question regarding" free" magazines
by smiddy insince they no longer charge for mags at the doors do the publishers carry this cost ?i used to be a literature servant and you never gave away mags unless they were old and out of date to be left at doctors waiting rooms etc.
not at peoples homes ,otherwise householders would expect to get them for free.
in other words do the publishers pay for the mags and give them away for free?
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They are bothering my sister
by truthseeker1969 inmy youngest sister who has never been baptized and never shown an interest in the witnesses since her teen years was recently visited by a couple of elders.. they asked her what she thought about witnesses and how she viewed the congregation.
she basically told me that she told them she could care less what anyone believes or does but she refuses to believe that the gb are spirit directed or inspired and that the material she has been shown by my family is the same stuff since she was a child.
she did tell them that she sees the gb beating people and using lies more and more and referenced me who was df'd in absentia but then had it overturned.. they stayed for an hour and at the end asked her to tell me that i should still limit my contact with my mother since i am not attending meetings etc.. i thought it was strange until she told me the name of the elders, both on my jc and both still it seeems bitter!.
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ssn587
sounds to me like its time for a little one on one confrontation with the elders, they need to be put in their place and told to STFU and stay out of your life. I ran into one the other evening and he asked how I am doing (haven't been to a meeting in over 6 months) told him fine since i don't have to be around people that have no real love for their fellow members. That shut him up and he had nothing further to say, whatever they do won't have any impact on me. I know their stink, the fact that they dont have any real love for anyone as evidenced on how they treated us when tragedy had stricken our family.
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SUPREME COURT EXPLOSIVE CASES PENDING
by Band on the Run inthe supreme court decided to grant review to further provisions of the arizona law that penalizes illegal aliens aka undocumented workers.
most of the law is prob/ invalid b/c congress has exclusive control over immigration law.
there are a host of lesser issues at play.
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ssn587
Kick the illegals out of this country. They don't belong here, kick them out of here. if they want to come and work here, then get a work permit, leave you children at home where they belong, they don't belong here, I for one don't want them here screwing up our hospitals and churches.
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How long has it been since you communicated with your love ones.
by jam insince you left the cult how long has it been (communicated) only.
family members.
your mom, dad ,brother, sister, son.
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ssn587
Probably the wrong one, but its been over six months since spouse died and haven't been able to converse with her. Feel so lost and lonely most all the time. Miss her greatly'
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My Wife Told Me What's Going on With the P.O.
by OnTheWayOut ini still cannot call the presiding overseer the cobe.
whatever.. anyway, i really don't follow what all is going on and just pick things up during or after the fact.
like when my wife says her meeting schedule is changed "this week" due to the c.o.
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ssn587
I have been fading for just over 5 months now, they haven't bothered me so far, but if they do, they better get ready for some hit back as i don't put up with crap anymore and won't. I despise their supposed love and paradise crap because that is what it is, crap.
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Is it true..
by iamwhoiam in...that there is a literature invoice the congregation has to pay every month in order to recieve literature?
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ssn587
at our cong several years back, there was a needs talk on not enough money being "donated" for books, mags, dvds, etc. They pointed out we are way low in our donations. afterward I asked that elder how can "donations" which are supposedly freely given be low. A donation is what it is a donation not a specific amount to pay for a particular item. He tried to tell me I didn't have the right attitude, I told him, you are putting a price on particular items and they are supposed to be "free" are they not. He then turned and walked away. Assholes, they always want their money.
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Why don't JWs do much in the way of charity work?
by ilikecheese inso i argue with the boyfriend a lot about the fact that i think charitable work is every bit as important as preaching when it comes to serving god.
every church i've ever gone to has some sort of community outreach, if not several outreaches, that have little or nothing to do with preaching.
and i made the point that if these people know you're affiliated with a church, they'll think a little more kindly about christians, too, which would help in the whole witnessing arena.
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ssn587
CP scaming people with WTBTS BS is not donating eternal life to anyone, it's donating a life of slavery to a publishing company to your fellow humans.
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I just "witnessed" officially for the first time!!!
by NoRegrets ini mean door to door (sort of), not informally to non-witness friends and family!.
so for a few weeks, i have suspected that my neighbor across the hall was being studied with by witnesses.
i wasn't sure but saw a couple of older women leaving with what looked like bibles, but never saw watchtower literature.
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ssn587
I too have been able to enlighten a neighbor, had a death in family, and she had come by and was wanting to know how me and my child were doing? Knowing we were/had been dubs, she wondered why she never seen any of them coming by to check up on us and to try and comfort us. Boy did i fill her in on just how unloving a bunch they really were, she mentioned thats she has been studying with two sisters but after talking to me and seeing how we had been treated she wasn't going to have anything to do with them. She ended her study with them on their next vist as she told me she had asked them if they were so loving and caring about each other why no one ever seemed to come by and visit us? Well she said they hemmed and hawwed and then couldn't give her an answer so she told them she wanted nothing to do with them anymore and to not come by her house and bother her any more. She told me this the following week after her visit with me. She was dumfounded over the treatment or rather lack of that we hadn't received. Truly they will know them by their fruits.
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Really stupid comment from an elder (and he was completely serious!)
by freshstart inmy husband and this elder in our old congregation used to trade dvds and such, just letting each other borrow them.
they would always return them to each other in a timely manner, no big deal.
well in 2005 they had traded some and about a week after that, a terrible natural disaster hit our area and everyone was displaced and it was a few months before things got settled back down again.
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ssn587
Is it possible the the DVDs were Porno movies? Just kidding (maybe).
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Just saw an elderly JW man...
by zengalileo inhe was walking with such a slump, dragging his feet, carrying a jacket, magazines barely visible just hanging from his fingertips.
if body language has any validity to it, this man was deeply discouraged and depressed.
i remember that slump too.
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ssn587
The way I look at it, is that you are never too old to get out, at least have some kind of life left to enjoy or challenge. I am now free at last, and just slipped away, they didn't care about me or the wife and when ones spouse dies, they just cut you off socially and it is like you no longer exist except for a head count at the meetings. good ridance.