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ssn587
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Bethelites - What Were Some of Your Favorite Meals At Bethel?
by LoisLane looking for Superman in.
i ate at brooklyn bethel twice, 23 years apart.
both times it was fried pork chops, mash potatoes and apple sauce.. just lois.
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My chat with 2 Dubs yesterday about UN membership
by jookbeard ini live close to a resonanbly busy street, 20 odd shops banks, a train station,a couple of cafes and coffee shops etc and usually see dubs doing street work close to the station and i'm now on nodding terms with an elder who is out most days of the week and have got close to recognizing most of the hard core of about a dozen of them , i was walking out of the cafe yesterday to be greeted by a couple of newbies i'd never seen before , a scruffy short dumpy man and a fairly well presented middle aged lady, i'll try and abridge the conversation as best as i can, we must have chatted for about 15 minutes and it was all in a good mannered style;.
me " have you sold many of those this morning ?".
jw guy " oh no we dont sell them we give them away for free" (like i didn't know that).
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ssn587
It's always a good thing to put correct information out there to the dubs, most will just let it go in one ear and out the other, but some may start thinking about it and hopefully research it and come to the right conclusion that the society is nothing more than a man made business and truthfully nothing but a snare and a racket.
I love nothing more than informing people when asked about TTATT. Even their own actions discredit them, when spouse died, a lady down the streeet had been studying with a pioneer sister for several months, she was concerned that no one ever came to see me and my daughter after my wife passed away, she had asked me, how come they don't come and try and console you two, I told her well what do you think, does it show that they have true love in the congregation or is it just words. Well that pioneer sister lost her study and a neighbor is much smarter about what the witnesses really are. More conversations with her and telling her about jwfacts and showing her in the society's on pubs was enough to convince her that she wanted nothing more to do with them.
Some days later she stopped by to see how we were and then told me that she told them she wanted nothing more to do with them, when the pioneer sister asked her why she just used how they didn't come around and see us as her reason and she told me she told the sister that if you really had true love you would have at least followed up with the daughter and went to see her and visit with her, since you haven't your words ring very hollow. I believe that's the exact wording she used. She then told me she told them to leave her house and never ever come back.
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Interesting conversation
by Freeof1914 inas some of you know several weeks ago i was disfellowshipped for several reasons, but primarily my thoughts on the organization.
last night i had a very interesting conversations with my wife after she came back from the meeting and several things jumped out at me that made see even more clearly how sick this religion is.
first of all, several months ago we attended a wedding of a friend.
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ssn587
sounds to me rather than that man being scared he probably mentioned it to his wife and then voiced that along with his doubts, his wife may be of the same mind as your wife, getting them to think is wrecking their faith, what a bunch of bull. It probably hits something in thier thinking process that they themselves thought was wrong and kind of let it go, but its still there lurking in their subconscious.
Her diatribe against you speaks volumes in itself, for myself I couldn't have kept quiet, many times I would bring old zwt and finished mystery quotes into answers at the wt, my wife would get upset but couldn't say much except just dance the dance they are dancing. I couldn't and wouldn't do that. When I heard something wrong, would raise my hand and if they called on me would try and bring the truth into it. It made me wonder many times why they didn't want to have back room talks with me. Not much they can say when its society books you were quoting from and I always brought out which book, wt, etc i got the answer from. Got many looks from some of the people there. Also had a few come up and ask me where they can look that up for themselves. It always surprised me that many didn't know that those books, old wts etc were in the kingdumb hall library.
I remember showing one brother where i got an answer from, he told his wife, and she told mine that she wished I wouldn't do that, my wife got upset at me, but i told her if asked a question I would answer it and when asked to show where I got it from I would do that too, and that I didn't give a flying truck about what any of her friends thought.
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What does your screen name/avatar mean and what does it stand for
by BU2B inand why did you choose it?
if you have a avatar, what is it and why did you pick it?.
ok ill start.
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ssn587
my name comes frm a nuke sub deployed on in mid 70"s
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John 3:16 - "EXERCISE faith"...??
by EdenOne inthe nwt often uses the expression "exercise", when it comes to the expression of faith.. "a notable use of that is in john 3:16 - for god loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.".
i started to be intrigued by the expression "exercise faith".
it is true that james wrote that "faith without works is dead", meaning that faith must be more than just an inner feeling or an oral statement; it must be evidenced by works.
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ssn587
exercise for GB go out there knock on doors sell mags, recruit so that others can be entrapped in the cult.
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Jehovah`s Witnesses beleive you only use 10% of your brain.......That is why you are a Jehovah`s Witness
by smiddy ini know, i was one of them ,i didnt think ,i didnt use my brain, i accepted what the organization said without questioning it , big mistake , why accept what some imperfect human says without seriously questioning it ?
and looking at alternatives to such reasonings ?.
do you beleive in the bible ?
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ssn587
Most jdubs don't even use 10%, thats a fallacy, most just sit there while the speaker drones on and on, with their mind sitting in quasi-nuetral, and the idea of indepth study or even research dosen't enter their minds as they have the answers already in the paragraphs and one musn't go beyond that or everyone will be confused.
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August 15,2013 Watchtower same old, same old
by hoser indo more service.
don't drink too much booze.
don't watch porn on your computer we know you still do.
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ssn587
yep the same ole same it seems, I haven't read a WT since very early 2011, not really interested anymore, but sometimes think I should go and critically examine them, but just haven't had the motivation.
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Texas tornadoes, please check in!
by talesin ini was just talking to a friend, and he is in the path right now.
the town where his daughter lives was hit hard, by a mile-wide tornado.. .
please check in, texas friends .... let us know you are okay!
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ssn587
so far good here in my part of texas
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Were You Ever Interrogated By The Elders?
by minimus insome elders enjoy giving the business to the lowly flock thru intimidation.
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some love to ask you to enter with them into the "backroom".. of course, there were many that never had run-ins with the shepherds because they were under the radar.. did you ever get interrogatted by the elders and if so, how did it go??
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ssn587
I remember one other incident by the cobpo or whatever the hell you call them nowadays, he said that a couple in the congregation had been stumbled by something I had told them. I was flabbergasted as I never hardly even speak to them, He said that I had been saying something that could have been taken as apostate. The I remembered my conversation with them, it was over 2 Tim. 3:16 about paul saying that all scripture was inspired. I had asked them what did Paul consider scripture? They of course said the bible, I told them they were wrong and as usual with a lot of dubs didn't know what the hell they were talking about. They of course were in his book study group and went and whined to him.
Reazlizing what had happened I told him what the conversation was about and didn't realize that the bilbe was apostate material, which set him back some, then i told him that they were wrong about Paul talking about the Bible in that particular scripture. He said no I was wrong, well I am a person that after realizing how skewed their beliefs were did some research in the WT's and found one I believe it was in from a 1982 WT. I told him no brother Paul wasn't referring to the Bible because the Bible as we know it today wasn't even around during those times, that Paul was referring to the Septuagint (spelling) and the LXX not the Bible, we then went into the Library and I found the article and showed him the footnote where it said that the early Christians used that. He had a surprised look on his face, the I told him if that Pussy (and that's the word I used) and his wife were at best ignorant and anyone that had been a jehovah witness should have known that, so if he is telling their studies something different he is giving them false information, and you brother should be counseling him and his wife and not taking up my time with nonsense, I then turned and left. Didn't hear anymore about it from the PO. I did confront the whinerand his wife and told them you need to know what you are talking about before you shoot off your mouth.
One thing that did surprise me was that it was obvious the PO didn't have a clue either, often when I would bring up historical info, I would have either him or one of the other elders want to know where I got that information, I told them from the Library in the hall, In fact, I had to take the Library overseer an elder into the Library he was suppose to be responsible for and show him the reprints they had in their, the finished mystery etc. The man didn't have a clue, which is surprising since he had spent most of his life in that congregation.
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marrying younger spouses
by ssn587 inmy wife passed away 2 years ago we had been married over 30 years, i have since remarried and my new wife is younger than 3 of my children from my first marriage.
i just wondering if there are any more like me out there.
i stay in excellent shape for my age, work out almost daily eat good and have absolutely no medical problems or at least none i can do anything about, bad knees, but my vitals are excellent, and i am known as the teenage because of them when i have my yearly medical checkup.. so was wondering if there are others out there like me, and what some may think about it, just for the record i am extremely happy once again, and we have a 18 month boy who delights me, have a whole new outlook on fatherhood and child raising.
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ssn587
Moshe I did marry her last year, and I do live off an on n the Philippines I own a house and a farm there. We don't even live there, just need to go up there to make sure things are okay. My first wife was a Filipina and she passed away unexpecdtedly well for me anyway. Her sisters live there free of paying any rent, and i take care of any problems that arise with the property, pay the taxes, maintenance bill etc. Use to even pay for the electrical and water bills for them.
My wife and I also have our own place and I do love the Philippines, its cheaper to live there, the beer is good, what little of it I drink, the weather is great even rainy season. And like you said the medical care is much cheaper than here in the states, however in the states i have virtually 100% free medical and have only used it the last 9/10 years for checkups yearly.
I take good care of myself eat virtually no meat, lots of vegges and fruits and sea creatures. Yeah life is great, my wife is wonderful, and our little son is a joy to behold. When younger was gone from home a lot due to deployments, work, etc etc., now I can spend good amounts of quality of time with both my wife and my son.
Thank all of you for you comments appreciate you taking the time to respond. Life is what it is and after a time, I decided to get busy living life instead of comtemplating a long boring road to finally dying. Life is definitely too short for that and I enjoy it too much, especially freedom from the influence of the borg.