Posts by cattails

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Well, I just finished reading Crisis of Conscience thanks to IssacAustin!

by Botzwana in

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i couldn't put it down!

very informative.

i agreed with it all.

cattails

Debator, what a bunch of crap! You don't know what you're talking about, read the book with an open mind... Oh, that's right, you're still brainwashed by the WT cult...

Ray Franz told it like he saw it and lived through it, and it all rang true for me when I read the book (well actually both of them I downloaded them from commentarypress.com in PDF format too).

I'm very thankful that brave people like Ray Franz, and Ed Dunlap, and also several Spanish couples from that time at Bethel had the courage to speak up about what was happening there and the hypocrisy of people who claim to be God's only Channel on Earth.

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Got a letter inviting me to my Judicial hearing- should I go?

by hoggieman in

hey everyone, my family and i have not gone to meeting in over a year.

rumors have swirled about us, but i have always dodged the elders calls and never said anything about my feelings.

so after a while the calls/visits dwindled, but in october they came by again and saw our halloween decorations.

cattails

DocBob's letter is awesome!

Thanks for posting the link DocBob!

http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/?p=22

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Untoward Rage towards The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society

by Band on the Run in

my extended family were all jehovah's witnesses from the bible students day.

my father was immense and chosen as a bodyguard to both judge (spurious title) and nathan knorr.

bethel was very small then so he knew fred franz, covington, henshel well.

cattails

I'd be interested in the experiences of others. Clearly, being raised a JW during your developmental years must make it harder.

You said it Janice, and please understand that with a new poster claiming to have gone to expensive name institutions of higher Ed. who can't spell simple words all sorts of flags went up in my mind.

It's not what you said so much as what or who you claimed to be as opposed to the way you came across in your writing.

But nobody's perfect. And yes, I agree with you that it's hard for a young witness going through early development, especially teens. It was for me and I know others who grew up with me in the same KHs that had a hard time with all the restrictions and the extra duties imposed on publishers to pioneer and to always be doing more for the "Organization".

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Untoward Rage towards The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society

by Band on the Run in

my extended family were all jehovah's witnesses from the bible students day.

my father was immense and chosen as a bodyguard to both judge (spurious title) and nathan knorr.

bethel was very small then so he knew fred franz, covington, henshel well.

cattails

Hi Janice/BandOnTheRun,

In what university/college did you learn about "Blind oblegiance" as you call it, never heard that term before.

And... as you say "The concept of a Trinity is an extrapolition" that word is unknown to me, as is the Trinity doctrine.

Did you by any chance mean "extrapolation"?

Cait

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Moses goes to heaven

by moshe in

our rabbi told us this one tonight at sabbath services-.

moses died and went to heaven.. god greets him at the pearly gates.. 'are you hungry, moses?

' asks god.. 'i could eat,' moses replies.. so god opens a can of tuna and reaches for a chunk of rye bread and they share it.. while partaking of this humble meal, moses looks down into hell and sees the inhabitants devouring huge steaks, briskets, pheasants, pastries and wines.

cattails

Wait a minute, I thought Moses was one of the great crowders who would be resurrected to a paradise earth, not heaven!

(Cattails ducks and runs)

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With the latest Australian Special Talk, we now have a complete picture of the Organizational Plan

by WingCommander in

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per this australian talk, found here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/203281/1/latest-special-talk-in-australia id say we have now seen the future........ ah yes........the governing body is now starting to show their hand, to begin to show their future plans for this false-religion-cult of fear and oppression.

it has been said on here for the last few years now, that with the elimination/combination of the book study at the kingdom halls instead of at homes, the introduction of new rule books (keep yourself in god's love) and the new elder manual that a "tightening of the reigns" was beginning.

and so, just as the members of jwd and the internet have written, so it shall be done by the governing body overlords.

cattails

Now why would the WTS publish 2 pages of information in their brand new elders book that reinforces the standing procedure (page 50, paragraph 12) that states an inactive person should be assigned to a service group (change in terminology from book study group) only to scrap it before many elders have even seen the book or been through the KM school? It just doesn't make sense.

DoubtingBro, I heard it with my own ears, this new CO named Scott Henry said it plainly that if a person is inactive despite attempts by the BoE to reactivate him/her, then that person's name is deleted from the list of publishers in the Service Group. Plain as could be.

This has already been put into practice after this CO's visit in this circuit in New England where I'm at now. Quite a few names have disappeared from the list posted on the information board.

This list will now serve as a reference for JWs not only of who is an "active publisher" but also of who is "good association" and who isn't.

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Please read and sign ... Grace had a scarey fall ...

by wannabefree in

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big hug for you!

i am glad you are okay.

you are a strong woman.. so sorry grace.

cattails

My Dear Grace, I'm glad you had the gumption to get back up.

Like that song... I get knocked down, but I get up again!

And you did my dear sister, I'm so glad you are okay.

(((Big Hug)))

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help needed now for letter to diss

by serein in

and i dont want crazy ideas,im sat here trying to write it and i cant even start it,.

help please, plus the elder whos coming to visit me at 6 who thinks im going to be nice and let him in and get brain washed in to going back is a realy nice person and im softy so im not gona be in im gona leave letter on door for him to take,im going movies wi kids.

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cattails

Hey serein, just deliver it to his door step. Oh, and nail it to the door with a great big thumbtack. That'll do it.

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Why is ok to copy the FLOCK book and not CoC?

by cyberjesus in

ok so both books are copyrighted, bottleofwater just asked to get a copy of coc a book that would save his life.

however when he asked for a copy he got replies that called him a thieve and many other things.

however when copying the new flock book many here copy the book and pass it along and not many say the same thing..... so i wonder what do you think?

cattails

The PDF of CoC and ISoCF are available for about less than $10 download at

http://www.commentarypress.com

The KS10 PDF is an abomination by WTS standards, which makes it fun to download and share.

:-)

I urge anyone who hasn't read them yet to spend the minimal download fee and read Ray Franz's books!

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KS10- Chapter One Discussion

by yknot in

first and foremost i want to thank all the brothers (and one or two sisters) who were pdfing like mad to get these 'pre-kingdom school' chapter reviews ready (as per boe ltr these are 1,2,4-7,9 & 11)!.

for those of you trying to see who could do the entire book i want to let you know we had a 'dark horse' enter this race and his email was so compelling he is our 'winner' in being responsible for the full book (forthwith coming in the next day or so)-- and i will reveal more about him (as per his wishes) then.. so lets not waste anymore time in reviewing chapter one of the 'shepheding the flock of god' published by the wts (a non-profit organization whose purpose of this publication like all others is provided as part of a worldwide bible educational work.

3 subheadings.

cattails

VM44: "Files placed online after 4 or 5 PM EST stand a good chance of remaining online until the next morning!"

Heh, I can just see some Bethelite given the special duty of staying up all night long now to make sure the links get taken down!

Well, let's put it to the test, people who downloaded Yknots link file uploads, please make them available for download, let's see if these take until the morning to be brought down, maybe the WTS needs to wait until the file hosting company's business hours too.