learning the truth about the watchtower society can be very painful for a number of reasons.
first, it is so disconcerting to realize that the core of your existence and the foundations of your beliefs are false that it can throw you for a real loop.
as witnesses we are so confident in all of the answers we have been given, to questions that we never asked, that we mentally put ourselves up on a pedestal above the masses of poor, blind, wicked humanity.
What is funny about it is, the cell doors were never locked, we just were told that they were.
so true. once i realised the elders werent police and the consequenses of df didnt end my life - ie I awoke the next day and things hadnt changed much, I wondered why I had not done it earlier.
THE ELDERS ARE NOT POLICE - YOU WILL NOT GO TO JAIL! YOU WILL GET OUT OF JAIL!
so do you think we help the wt society by agreeing to not have any contact with witness family, therefore our family and friends have no resistance to the wt control?.
what if we fought fire with fire and love bombed back?
like send holiday greeting cards with picture of all family together saying wish you where here!.
we shouldn't throw in the towel because WT says so
this much is true
so do you think we help the wt society by agreeing to not have any contact with witness family, therefore our family and friends have no resistance to the wt control?.
what if we fought fire with fire and love bombed back?
like send holiday greeting cards with picture of all family together saying wish you where here!.
in theory its a great idea. in practice, most would see it as evidence of satan trying to pull them away.
how far does the "barking chain" of gossip spread from one kingdom hall's judicial committee to another kingdom hall?
the record to my personal knowledge (three counties away 100 miles.
)is i had a brother call me and ask if "brother so-and-so was going to be disfellowshiped on thursday night", he heard it from our cobe.
I once went to visit an old friend who hadnt been to the meeting in around ten years - I hadnt been in around 2.
the next day my ex husband knocked on my door warning me to be careful as rumours were circulating that I was looking to 'form an apostate group'
- I dont even think we touched on religion, but while i was there an old flame called on her - she hadnt seen him for years
his mum was back in the truth after making some money running a brothel
after closing the kinky flat down she rented it to my ex..
six degrees of separation lol...
and they were worried I might be a bad influence hahah
jehovah's witnesses do not do that!
again: jehovah's witnesses do!
jehovah's witnesses!.
anything said by a witness trying to preach in an 'apostate' forum is null and void since the watchtower would df them for being here...
my own circular logic with which i would argue in here with any JW apologist - you shouldnt be talking to me - therefore you are going against the WT therefore why are you trying to stick up for it.
round and round
i was a jw for a lot of years, like many of you.
i wanted to try an experiment and try out my jw apologist chops.
since we have such a hard time finding a jw apologist that can argue well, i thought i'd give it a whirl.
i get it now.
i have a few blood back chats lol :D
jehovah's witnesses do not do that!
again: jehovah's witnesses do!
jehovah's witnesses!.
ziddina, thanks..x
i wanted to start a thread about the most disturbing quotes that you all have found in watchtower publications.
i just came across this one when responding to another thread.
i'm sure there are many more disturbing quotes out there.
Thinking of how they justify the obvious mental trauma and sadness they cause people..
and also how a witness will deny the practice of shunning to a newly interested one, this one made me really angry..
17 Consider just one example of the good that can come when a family loyally upholds Jehovah’s decree not to associate with disfellowshipped relatives. A young man had been disfellowshipped for over ten years, during which time his father, mother, and four brothers “quit mixing in company” with him. At times, he tried to involve himself in their activities, but to their credit, each member of the family was steadfast in not having any contact with him. After he was reinstated, he said that he always missed the association with his family, especially at night when he was alone. But, he admitted, had the family associated with him even a little, that small dose would have satisfied him. However, because he did not receive even the slightest communication from any of his family, the burning desire to be with them became one motivating factor in his restoring his relationship with Jehovah. Think of that if you are ever tempted to violate God’s command not to associate with your disfellowshipped relatives.
Study WT - April 2012 "Betrayal" - Paragraph 17
makes me wonder did this poor man ever really care about 'his relationship with jehovah'? or did he just miss his family? this paragraph has CULT written all over it.
jehovah's witnesses do not do that!
again: jehovah's witnesses do!
jehovah's witnesses!.
anyhoo - whats a JW apologist? I have not heard this one!
jehovah's witnesses do not do that!
again: jehovah's witnesses do!
jehovah's witnesses!.
thats why pedophiles do their deeds without an extra witness, obvioulsy. I know if discovered my child had ever been molested i wouldnt need someone extra to be party to it to go to the police, just in case it wasnt very 'loving'
anyway - anything said by a witness trying to preach in an 'apostate' forum is null and void since the watchtower would df them for being here... lol
