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  Your Volunteer Work?

  by Valis in

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  well, some here think that all we do is sit around a post naughty pics and do no charitable or volunteer work.

  i thought we could see who does what for their respective communities.

  valis= free computer support dallas shakespeare festival + on the wing again bird sanctuary/rescue, photopgraphic web hosting services for the bob marley festival of dallas, am about to start w/the down's syndrome guild of dallas doing web support and event work/soliciting charitable donations from companies, and my teaching that means working many hours unpaid to help my students personally/educationally.

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  Incense_and_Peppermints

  I think it is encouraging for regular posters and revealing to JW lurkers to see what we are doing.

  it is encouarging to other exes to read about the acheivements of those who left 'da fayth'. they succeeded in spite of the wts, which is indeed very gratifying and wonderful to observe.

  Lets dispel the appearance of being self-indulgent, voyeuristic, low life perverts that others would expect of us APOSTATES .

  i've never read anything here that makes me think anyone here is a low-life pervert. maybe i missed something.

  (by the way, if they are lurking, as you say, they're the ones being 'voyeuristic', not us...)

  but if i encounter any jw who wants to get out, i will help them get out. i have always said that. and i will listen to them with compassion and without judgement. but any who just want to preach to me or tell me how evil i am can just keep walking.

  "Bend like the willow, winds gonna blow you hard and cold tonight. Life as it happens, nobody warns you, willow hold on tight."
  - Paul McCartney, Little Willow

  p.s. i was so engrossed in the content i forgot the topic, sorry. for the record, i have worked as a volunteer with abused children and with preemies. i say that not to show them how 'good' i am, rather because the originator asked. and that doesn't make me a saint if i have, or a sinner if i haven't...

  Edited by - Incense_and_Peppermints on 16 June 2002 18:35:17
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  A DARK DAY INDEED

  by Incense_and_Peppermints in

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  when we put the fellings and whims of a few disgruntled "active" jehovah's witnesses who come to these boards before the intense feelings, thoughtful commentary or adult playfulness of the majority of posters here - ex witnesses, so-called apostates, etc.

  don't call me jaded or an advocate of anarchy or harm to my fellow man just because i believe in freedom of expression.

  i am a good kind loving person!

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  Incense_and_Peppermints

  too many posters to quote here, so i'll just say this, that my problem with people like larc and dutchie is their taking the high moral ground and getting personal, rather than sticking to the argument at hand.it was never about wanting to post naked pictures. here? are you serious? i mentioned that in a half-hearted manner when i was asking dustrabbit for directions about his alternative message board.

  but if people want to post their butts and if simon, who is in charge of such things, has no problem with that, why should they? they were posted, i believe, in a place clearly labeled adult or sexual in nature, so if any innocent jehovah's witnesses happen to be where they shouldn't, it's their fault if their sensibilities get offended. come on, if they're seeking spiritual answers, why are they reading threads labeled 'boobs' or whatever it was?

  again, my quest du jour wasn't about freedom of expression per se; rather it was their concern that jehovah's witnesses might see those naked pictures and get offended. what about all the other things that are posted here - i mean there's a whole truckload of stuff that would offend them... frankly i don't care if it offends them. if they wish to label me immoral or callous for speaking freely or for not caring that it offends the lurking witnesses - oh well.

  after i thought about this a while i realized i was upset over a message board. why should it matter what judgemental, illogical, religiously biased people think of my commentary? if you don't like it, don't read it; it's that simple. and if i don't like your comments, i'll simply ignore them.
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  Incense&Peppermint...please read:

  by dustrabbit in

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  incense&peppermint:.

  if you are still trying to get into exjwsraw: just create a new msn/hotmail account and use that for exjwsraw,..plus you can keep that email hidden from the group.. take care,.

  the dustrabbit

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  Incense_and_Peppermints

  haven't yet. is it only for ex jw's? what i mean is, will active witnesses be there? not being 'exclusive', just making inquires...

  thanks.
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  Do you ignore certain posters?

  by LDH in

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  ok before we get off on the wrong foot this is not a flame war.

  i read a comment by belbab on hillary's post this morning...he remarked that he had asked a question after the 09/11 attack, that no one answered.

  well, i didn't even remember reading it, so i did a simple search.

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  just the thought police.
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  porn over at "JustJW's"

  by professor in

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  at least we're not that bad!.

  http://groups.msn.com/justjws/_homepage.msnw?pgmarket=en-gb

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  Incense_and_Peppermints

  h my gd, that's the funniest d--- thing i've seen all day!
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  A DARK DAY INDEED

  by Incense_and_Peppermints in

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  when we put the fellings and whims of a few disgruntled "active" jehovah's witnesses who come to these boards before the intense feelings, thoughtful commentary or adult playfulness of the majority of posters here - ex witnesses, so-called apostates, etc.

  don't call me jaded or an advocate of anarchy or harm to my fellow man just because i believe in freedom of expression.

  i am a good kind loving person!

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  Incense_and_Peppermints

  when we put the fellings and whims of a few disgruntled "active" jehovah's witnesses who come to these boards before the intense feelings, thoughtful commentary or adult playfulness of the majority of posters here - ex witnesses, so-called apostates, etc.

  don't call me jaded or an advocate of anarchy or harm to my fellow man just because i believe in freedom of expression. i am a good kind loving person!

  i see they still wield their mighty sword of terror over us, even here.

  fuck that shit.

  and you may quote me.

  dear Simon, please delete this account. thank you.

  love,
  Incense and Peppermints ;_;
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  Sometimes I Am Ashamed

  by Dutchie in

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  does every issue of morality have to be compared with the thinking and teaching of jehovahs witnesses?

  simply because you are no longer jehovahs witnesses does that mean that you flaunt all moral authority and engaged in any perverted pleasure that you have a mind to?

  because your morality is no longer legislated by a pseudo religious organization does that give you license to engage in all acts of "immorality" and refer to it "as just having fun.

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  Hi Insence, I appreciate your comments and I agree with you that freedom of expression is not immoral. However, I am not as jaded as you are when it comes to my responsibility to other people. I think we all have a responsibility to one another. I don't want to offend you in any way and I would like that same courtesy from you. Are we are brother's keeper? That in the age old question? We live in a time when total freedom is looked upon as being enlightened, as being modern. However, because I feel responsible to my neighbors and my friends I sometimes refrain from doing everything I might want to do. But that's just me

  jaded? you act as if saying what you want to freely while simultaneously respecting the minimal guidelines set forth by simon is somehow evil. because i no longer care what jehovah's witnesses think of me, that makes me a jaded person who has no regard for the feelings of my fellow man? you're way off here. i come to this forum to say what i want to say about my victimization at the hands of the WTS. period. the day i cannot do that is the day i leave this place. total freedom? if we had total freedom, we would have anarchy. i am certainly not an advocate of that!

  Freedom of expression is immoral. It is immoral to hell fire in a crowded theatre which causes a panic and a lose of life. It is immoral to falsely accuse someone of a crime. It is called defamation of character and is grounds for a law suit. It is immoral to use language that will injure an emotionaly disturbed person. Also, I might add that your depiction of the JWs who come here is a stereotype. You left out those who come here like most who have remained who wanted help, and were lucky enough to come here when the atmosphere did not offend them and drive them away.

  larc: duh. as if i would do any of those things you mentioned. i'm not an anarchist just because i think people should say what they want to say here. this is a message board, ok, not a temple. what about the stereotypes some jw's post here, like calling us "repressed fundies", or preaching to someone who LEFT that faith and who is here to tell their story and listen to others? what about the feelings of those who were hurt grievously by the wts and seek others with the same shared experience? we read their posts and get hurt or offended but we press on, do we not? and that one comment you made: "Freedom of expression is immoral". that says it all. if you want to think it's immoral, that's your problem. yelling 'fire' in a crowded theatre or slander or the other things you mentioned are not freedom of expression. they are irresponsible acts, even criminal. so don't paint my defense of freedom of expression as advocating that. and funny you should mention "language that will injure an emotionaly disturbed person".... one of the witness guys sent me an unsolicited email that was full of weird s--- and had a stalking tone to it. what did i do? break down and cry? no. i forwarded it to simon and blocked the sender and deleted the email. it emotionally disturbed me. WHERE IS THEIR CONSIDERATION FOR OUR FEELINGS?!

  my days of answering to jehovahs' witnesses are OVER. if you want to walk on eggshells to please a few idiots like that go ahead. i'm out of here.
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  Sometimes I Am Ashamed

  by Dutchie in

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  does every issue of morality have to be compared with the thinking and teaching of jehovahs witnesses?

  simply because you are no longer jehovahs witnesses does that mean that you flaunt all moral authority and engaged in any perverted pleasure that you have a mind to?

  because your morality is no longer legislated by a pseudo religious organization does that give you license to engage in all acts of "immorality" and refer to it "as just having fun.

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  Incense_and_Peppermints

  hi dutchie. i don't know what thread you're talking about, so i can't comment specifically on that. but i will say this: that freedom of expression isn't immoral. and we are not responsible for the feelings of any witnesses who may come here. they are surfing the web, and believe me. there's far, far worse stuff out there than anything ever posted here. i have read things that annoy me, like some of the comments by active witnesses preaching to posters; oh well. and the thread with the uglypeople.com was not to my taste, because those poor people can't help their ugliness. but it's not for me to say what's right and what's wrong here, that's Simon's job and he polices this place well, and i respect his judgement. if i don't like something said, i ignore it, plain and simple. we aren't responsible for protecting their tender little feelings. i don't think they come seeking spiritual answers - they come out of curiousity, or to see what the evil apostates are up to, or to see if they can bust one of their own 'spiritually weak' members, or whatever. if they see something upsetting to them, so what? i did see one pic of someone's lovely derierre, and you know what i was going to put in my reply post? i was going to put a quote from lunchlady doris from the simpsons: "it's rich in bunly goodness". was that the thread? i thought it was pretty tame, i mean, they didn't show a penis or pubic shot or any sexual act. i wasn't offended, and because i'm not offended doesn't mean i am immoral or engage in debauchery, or am trying to rebel, or reclaim a life denied as a witness. i like this place because of the free speech aspect of it. and we all seem adult enough to be able to weather the disagreements, and flirtations, and misunderstandings that may come from participating in this forum. the jw's have plenty of forums of their own, and they lock us out of those. we don't lock them out! they are free to come and read and comment, and the small price they might have to pay is getting offended once in a while, so what? and i appreciate your comments, really. please don't think i get personal when i comment - i am only commenting on the thoughts posted, not you.

  and hey - to any witnesses who may be reading these posts and getting offended, i personally don't give a crap. don't read my posts then! remember, if you play with fire, you will get burned.

  signed,
  ~free from censorship, shame, jw mores, and religious tyranny. woo-HOO.

  Edited by - Incense_and_Peppermints on 15 June 2002 23:0:13

  Edited by - Incense_and_Peppermints on 15 June 2002 23:7:16
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  Owwwww... So SUNBURNED ... Owwwwww

  by joeshmoe in

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  ok, i'm pretty much gonna be online all day, since i can do nothing else but sit here in my underwear, touch nothing, and curse the sun.

  damn texas sun!

  damn you!

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  Incense_and_Peppermints

  poor baby. think cool. or watch movies set in winter, like 'fargo'. and keep your fluids up, and eat posicles, 'cause when you have a sunburn, you also run a higher body temperature and can dehydrate yourself. as for me, i plan on escaping this desert heat as soon as i click "reply to topic".

  "in your underwear" hmm?

  

  you can find cool pics like these, and other awesome pop culture stuff here (have fun!):

  http://home.vicnet.net.au/~popcult/net.htm
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  the sum of all fears...

  by Incense_and_Peppermints in

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  ...and our experiences.

  just musing... first, a poem.... the garden of love .

  i went to the garden of love .

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  Incense_and_Peppermints

  i apologize - i only now read your post. anyway, i had no idea he also did engravings. this man was a passionate genius. i mean, read this:

  Blake lived in a filthy London studio where he succumbed to constant visions of angels and prophets who instructed him in his work. He once painted while recieving a vision of Voltaire, and when asked later whether Voltaire spoke English, replied: "To my sensations it was English. It was like the touch of a musical key. He touched it probably French, but to my ear it became English."

  *sigh*

  there seem to be no true visionaries like this in modern times, except possibly for andy warhol or jack kerouac. anyway thank you for the link. it was cool.

  ~incense and peppermints

  Edited by - Incense_and_Peppermints on 15 June 2002 13:19:46