when examining a complex situation, i often find it useful to consider what isn't being said and what isn't being done - and why.. there are some major things that the watchtower hasn't bothered to do.
1) many congregations are full of ex-elders and ms's - almost to a point i would find embarrassing, if i were them but they don't seem to have any approach to getting these brothers back in the saddle.
neither do they seem interested in why these brothers quit and what could be done to prevent it.. 2) since the emergence of the internet and its challenges, they haven't made any deep or concerted effort at a witchhunt to clean disloyal brothers out of the organization.
I agree just as much for the kids, since meetings are SO kid-unfriendly. Meetings were always a huge amount of work for us parents with young kids, since there are virtually no provisions to help out. All we had was the back school to get away, or just don't go to the meetings.
LOL, so true. To me the highlite of the meeting was to have an excuse to get up and go in the back school. Then for the second half I would watch the clock until the halfway mark, then make a trip to the water fountain.
apparently there is a websit to do with topix where we can see reniaa being thrashed?.
hb.
No, Gareth says that he is not baptized, and uses that as his excuse for posting on the internet and talking with apostates. The guy has close to 16,000 posts on there. He's a JW apologist machine.
To be fair though, I like having the stray JW defender here and there. It was listening to both sides of the story that opened my mind enough to see the JW faith for what it really is in the first place.
apparently there is a websit to do with topix where we can see reniaa being thrashed?.
hb.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/
The site is busy as hell, but the signal to noise ratio there is horrible. If you think it's bad having Ninja and John Doe gunk up the works, you ain't seen nothing until you spend a few hours on Topix.
in the latest new yorker magazine they cover r. crumb's newest work, an illustrated version of "the book of genesis" it's in comic book style.
i was a little put off by some of the pictures, but he brings up some interesting points.. one of which, "..... it would be crazy to try to find any spiritual meaning in genesis: "it's much too primitive.".
sure enough, in one of his pictures he quotes genesis 3:15 and it dawns on me, is it just talking about the future of snakes' and mankind's relationship and nothing else?.
Great post Abe. Any chance that you could hook me up with your dealer? I definitely want some of what you're smoking.
i couldn't help myself.
it was so obnoxious what the paragraph was saying about apostates.. so i said that having a difference of opinion is not a problem but really as brought out by thessolonians it is when a person raises themselves up above god to have people follow them instead of god that they are considered bad in god's eyes.. i don't even know if it had anything to do with the question, but i just wanted to say that, lol..
Strain out that gnat, gulp down that camel Reniaa.
i've been df'd for 21 years, and other than the heartbreak of my mom shunning me and the sad stories i read here, i never thought the dirty rat bastard wb&ts could otherwise effect my life.
well, i was wrong!
my dear stepdaughter recently learned that her children's paternal grandfather has parents and siblings who are jws, some of whom were at my stepdaughter's baby shower this past saturday.
You're not overreacting at all. I see nothing wrong with taking any possible precaution.
First, they lure someone in during a moment of weakness, showing some jackasses all wearing collared shirts and slacks by the side of a river, eating a piece of fruit, while a lion chews a piece of celery. "Wouldn't that be nice" they ask. Add some months of insidious propoganda and next thing you know, one of your kids is a living breathing judgemental closed-minded hate machine.
he's here in melbourne for the food and wine show...monday is queens birthday public holiday so it sounds like fun...he was interviewed by our current affairs journalist and she really pushed him asking about his financial problems etc....he acused her of having a "huge wart" on her lip and was rude...the next day at the show he held up a picture of a half pig women with many breasts and said it was her.....families were shocked!
should be interesting..
Classy
i have been so worked up and worried for years about the end and armageddon that i have headaches, depression, and all kinds of maladies.
been having troubles with it since 4th grade and nothing seems to help.
just being at the kingdom hall is mentally taxing, just anything jw is mentally taxing.
Also wanted to add that since leaving the mental hospital, and against the doctor's wishes, I have taken myself off of all medications and am doing fine without them - all made possible by removing the fear of God killing me at any second.
i have been so worked up and worried for years about the end and armageddon that i have headaches, depression, and all kinds of maladies.
been having troubles with it since 4th grade and nothing seems to help.
just being at the kingdom hall is mentally taxing, just anything jw is mentally taxing.
I spent almost the first 3 decades of my life in constant fear and dread of Armagedon. It put a cloud over everything I did. The constant thought of "God is coming, and will kill me if I haven't done enough meetings and service" literally drove me insane (I wound up in a psych ward a year ago). I had been on anti-anxiety and anti-depressants for many years. They helped a little, but at their best they mildly dulled the fear while making me a walking zombie. I had constant thoughts of suicide, and 2 half-hearted attempts, figuring that I might as well end it now and hope that I somehow get resurrected.
Fast forward to now. It all started for me after I missed quite a few meetings while in the mental facility and shortly thereafter. I suppose that I had always had doubts, but never really bothered to look into them as I was fully convinced and consumed by "The Truth" of it all. Investigating one doubt led to another thing, and another thing until after many weeks of staying up til 4 in the morning doing research (using JW and non-JW materials) that I had finally come to the realization that this religion that had made me miserable for so many years was wrong about multiple issues, and very very cult-like.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Ninja, John Doe, Oompa, Priest72, and Outlaw need their own special forum here on JWN for topics like this :-)
