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  leaving the wt - why?

  by rockmehardplace in

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  so for some people, there is the one breaking point that makes people leave.

  for me, not so much about doctrine, but about how people treated one another.

  i always heard that we show we are the true religion because we have love among ourselves.

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  The lack of love was the last straw for me; I ran out of excuses for them....and realized it was emotionally and spiritually abusive to stay around.

  That was Blondie's word. Just the way I discovered it.
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  How long before you stopped believing armageddon was on your doorstep?

  by bubba flavel in

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  2. experiences

  i was born into "the truth" back in 1964. i made the big mistake of getting baptised when i was about 14 or so, purely to please my father as i saw how proud he was when my brothers were baptised....didn't work.. we moved to a new congregation when i was about 8, he introduced all my brothers to the congregation by name, a short bio of thier endearing qualities and how proud he was of them, when he introduced me it was "and this is our black sheep of the family, steve".. i remember living in fear at the fast approaching 1975....actually, living in terror is probably a more apt desciption.

  all of you will full well know how it was instilled into us at every meeting and assembly how we are living in the last days.. as a 15 year old, a brother dobbed me in for kissing a worldly girl at school.

  went through the marked process, judicial committy, disfellowshipped and the shunning which continues to this day by what's left of my family.

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  When I finally started scrutinizing my religion a couple of years ago, it was done very quickly to determine that I could not trust anything from the Watchtower - about one or two months, I think. Then I knew that Armageddon would not come the way Watchtower render it and absolutely no protection for such thing by staying in the organization - rather the opposite.
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  The Final Remark from a JW after 1200 Emails

  by maputo95 in

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  2. beliefs

  after 1250 emails between my friend, derek and i discussing why i am a catholic.

  and not a jw and after sending him verses about how christ wants to come into.

  our lives etc, i came to the conclusion, my friend who had not uttered one.

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  According to Don Cameron the "only" method for reaching a witness is to point on the legitimacy of the GB. Point on all the false prophecies and ask: "How can Jehovah expect ordinary people to be able to choose a 'prophet' who never ever has got any prediction fulfilled?"
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  Only bad things in ancient birthdays?

  by bamse in

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  2. friends

  the fds argue about the murders in connection with the only two birthday parties mentioned in the bible.. the cup bearer was released at pharaoh's birthday.

  by that incident joseph could be freed and next; millions of people included the israelite were saved from famine.

  one man was killed, but millions were saved..

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  The FDS argue about the murders in connection with the only two birthday parties mentioned in the Bible.

  The cup bearer was released at Pharaoh's birthday. By that incident Joseph could be freed and next; millions of people included the Israelite were saved from famine. One man was killed, but millions were saved.
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  Inactive = D/F in 3 Years

  by Simon Morley in

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  2. beliefs

  is it true that there is a now policy that if you are inactive and not attending meetings that after three years you will be d/f'd?

  i have a friend who is very concerned that this is now policy.

  can any shed some light?.

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  "They talk with forked tongue then!"

  - Does it surprise someone?
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  February 2010 Study Watchtower - Millions Now Living 'May' Never Die

  by Marni Mai in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just noticed that in the february 2010 study edition of the watchtower, they refer to the "millions now living will never die" talk in 1918, but they have changed the title to "millions now living may never die".

  only problem, they included the picture of the invitation to the talk, which says 'will'.. ooops.

  it's on page 16. enjoy.. .

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  I have earlier mentioned that in the norwegian edition "May/will" is rendered "will" or "shall" with the norwegian word "skal". Now I have read the danish and swedish editions from www.jw.org and discovered the following:

  Danish: "vil måske aldrig" which means "will maybe never"

  Swedish: "skola aldrig" which means "will never" or "shall never".
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  February 2010 Study Watchtower - Millions Now Living 'May' Never Die

  by Marni Mai in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just noticed that in the february 2010 study edition of the watchtower, they refer to the "millions now living will never die" talk in 1918, but they have changed the title to "millions now living may never die".

  only problem, they included the picture of the invitation to the talk, which says 'will'.. ooops.

  it's on page 16. enjoy.. .

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  I have downloaded the norwegian pdf of that studyarticel and looked at what the rendering of "may" in the english text. It is the norwegian word "skal" and that word renders the english "will" and "shall". So in this case the norwegian translation is honest to the very original text. Maybe the norwegian translater is an apostateseed?
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  Checking out the Watchtower Headquarters Via Google Maps and Streetview

  by The Almighty Homer in

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  2. friends

  if your not aware as of yet google maps has a interesting program put into their software now where you can visually see the location.

  or address that your searching for.

  once you've come to the address that you've searched for, most city locations.

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  Brooklyn The Great?.....
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  New (non Witness) here

  by juci32 in

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  2. friends

  hello guys!i am just introducing myself here.

  i have been visiting this site for about a year but never really posted much but i have really learned and enjoyed the topics on this forum, in fact i think this is the best discussion forum i have yet to come across .. a little about my situation is i am a non religious person married to a devout witness, when i met him 4 yrs ago he was out in the "world", never really mentioned his beliefs as we were enjoying life without it.

  the more we dated the more i realized that something wasn't right.

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  Welcome to the forum. I am still in, formerly. Stopped attending meetings one and a half year ago. I have to be very silent or I will be disfellowshipped. For instance; I got the message that if I talk about 1975, I will be disfellowshipped. My children are 'hostages' in the org. I am not able to reach their mind yet. But I still hope.
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  Has the Watchtower ever admitted making a mistake?

  by moomanchu in

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  2. friends

  with all their flip flops, errors and changes, do you know of any printed admission of mistakes made ?.

  have they ever apologized for wrong doctrine?.

  i think it's because of too much pride..

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