i read a ton of posts on this site that basically follow the same form: somebody has an argument with a close relative about the "truth" and long, angry e-mails follow thereafter - or heated phone calls - or face to face conversations - and the kitchen sink gets thrown into the mix.. you name it: child molestation, 1914, false prophecy, everything and anything that comes to mind.. no, no, no!
unless you are really committed to losing your witless family or friends, don't hit them with both barrels while you are angry and upset about a lifetime of being duped by the 'truth'.. here's a piece of ancient wisdom - and it applies regardless of whether you are a an agnostic or atheist:.
"i have many things yet to say to you but you are not able to bear them at present" john 16:12. yes, that principle of gradualism still works with people.
Very good advice Metatron..
Sometimes when we learn things that open our eyes, we want so badly to share that information with those we love. We forget they are still under the mind control of the WTS and wont have any of it.
I almost ruined my relationship with my mother before I took this advice.
the elders are giving me a chance to meet up with them a last time in order to try to prevent a disfellowshipping.
one of the elders will call me in two days to see what i think because i told him that i don't want to be in the religion anymore.
how can i politely and painlessly refuse?
Please..just let them do what they are going to do without your help. Any time you give them, will only trouble your mind. They have a way about making you feel dirty and less then, Don't do it..it's so not worth it!! Just let them do their job without further damaging you. In the end they are sinners just like everyone else, so why give them any power over you?
to cut very long story short , my inlaws have not seen my child for 18months we left the area they live 2 years ago after a ex min servant was sent to prison for abusing kids including my eldest child , understandably i wanted a fresh start !
today my jw motherinlaw tried to give her disfellowshipped son ten pounds for our child (her granchild she hasnt seen for 18 months ) he asked her why ?
she told him i told her it was best if they didnt see our child anymore just before i left town (half hour drive away from our new home ) this is not true at all !
I can sympathize with you Looloo :( We seem to have very similar stories.
For me... I can only imagine the talk that is going on behind our back! I'm at the point, I just don't care anymore. If they use me as an excuse to why their relationship with the kids is almost nonexistent, then that's fine as long as it keeps them away from making them feel less then or bad for how we choose to live our life. We keep our visits to a min these days and it's working for us.
I wish you well.
some of you have read what i wrote on this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/200211/1/never-wake-up.
here's the final email my wife just sent me 1 minute ago:.
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Awww man!! I'm so sorry brother Dan.
I agree with the ones who have said to give it some time. It's a shock to her right now, but when she sees your still that great man she loves and married she'll be back.
You both have your lovely children to think about. I think once she stops thinking about how you not being a JW will effect her..she'll wake up to how it will effect her and the children to not have a husband and father around :(
I wish you well.
what's a really good movie you'd recommend that most people probably haven't seen?.
my personal recommendation: synecdoche, new york.
it's one of those movies that words fail utterly to capture--which really is the hallmark of a good movie, i suppose.
Love The Kite Runner
just got back from an awesome time in maui.
today we got a call from my fil.
my mil has been in utah for the last week or so and found out that her family past was full of "demon activity".
BD,
So sorry for your frustration
Your wife just doesn't want to know the truth about something she trusts with her life. Just do what you have to do for You and your sanity. Hopefully she'll come around, but it will have to be something she is ready to do.
and they are now in 1st place in the n.l.
west with a 6-1 record !
and the hated l.a. dodgers are in last place !
Go Gaints!!! Nice win Flipper :)
just to keep from messin' up fhn's reggae thread.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbhnicq02l4.
there's a lot of them!.
one rule is you can't wear a tee shirt with writing on it if you are working at a quick build kh .
nothing with logos.. let's add more stupid rules that were in your hall or that the organization has.. .
For the males. Hair too long..hair too short. My husband had that problem all the time! It would drive him crazy.
i am against the use of the term "pedophile" as it is used within the ex-jw community.
the definition of pedophilia by merriam-webster is:.
sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object .
Interesting thread LL.
I always wondered if I was using the correct term in conversations about my child's molester, I tend to use the word molester instead of Pedophile.
I'm really not sure what the proper term or word would be for him other then the not so nice *** words we call him by
He was married and had children. I have no idea of his sex life with his wife but he targeted little girls, all were in the 9/10 year old frame.
Is that a pedophile?
