What cameo-d said. +1
Posts by freddo
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Okkkkk...you MESS with my kids and you MESS WITH ME JWs!!!
by WuzLovesDubs ini have soooo had it with these assholes...sooooo had it!!
my daughter who is 19 is pre-engaged to a wonderful 20 year old guy who treats her like a princess.
he lives with us to both help me with the rent and for them to save some money for their future.
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Blood Transfusion? Yes Please
by finallysomepride inon monday night i ended in hospital with kidney stones (5th time) this ones plagued me for the last 2-3 years.. i recieved all the necessary pain killers to settle things down, so i was comfotable most of tuesday.
tuesday night the specialists came to see me, & they asked about me being a jw and would i still refuse a blood transfusion.. immediatley i said no to being a jw & yes to a blood transfusion, i had been wonderng for sometime what would be my awnser be, & how quick i would responde to these questions, so now i know.. by the way there was alot relief on the faces of the specialist when i answered this way.. they have only so far put a stent in to relieve the pressure from the stone blocking the kidney, further treatment to come but could be some months away.. so anyway i'm still in hospital, thank god for netbooks & wireless broadband, i go home 2moro.. just thought i would share what i've been through these last couple of days, & to say i really am feeling like i'm now free of the borg.. kevin.
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freddo
Kevin, out of interest - did you need (as in have) a blood transfusion for your surgery? Hope all turns out well for you.
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Which book ,studied at the Book Study, you Hated or loved more????
by deep-blue-sea induring my life as jw i have studied many, many books of the wt at the weekly book study.. here you will find some of the books considered during the years with their publishing date:.
1955 new heavens, new hearth.
1961 from lost paradise to..... 1962 let your will be done on earth.
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freddo
Loved - Greatest Man
Hated - Orgasmic Revelation's Grand Climax! Came three times IIRC.
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Why Aren't You At Least FAding?
by shamus100 init doesn't take much, just stop going.
you don't even have to do it all at once; maybe do one meeting a week for a month, then one meeting a month for two months, then just stop going.. what's going to happen?.
nothing.. getting a shepherding call... q: what's wrong brother twinkletoes?
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freddo
Perhaps I can help?
I was a well-known elder in our circuit appointed as MS at 20, Elder at 28 - public talks away for twenty years, started doing that as an MS which was pretty unusual - did circuit assembly items including two baptism talks etc - RBC team overseer - Attendant Captain at DC and even a talk at the DC once at the height - or is that depth? - of my spiritual career. All my family, wife - sister - adult kids - nephews and nieces - elderly father and others are devout, but thankfully not rabid JW's. I resigned in 2004.
My wife, adult kids and sister know my doubts but have basically said that as long as I don't go public or DA/DF they will continue to have normal family relationships. We all get on fine; they know the real reason why I came off being an elder - helping with Dad's care - doubts, treadmill, don't believe the crock of shit prophecy anymore and the catalyst - a dominating CO - gave me the way out without my resigning upsetting my elders (they "understood").
So I carefully and deceitfully keep my good standing - I can even run a microphone on a stand-in basis and "help the hall servant".
This is my schedule until my father dies (sorry if that sounds bad) which could be tomorrow or ten years, who knows?:-
Sunday meetings 2 a month. Mid week 2 a month. Give a somewhat "off-beam" answer once a month. Claim work or sick and tell my wife "I don't want to" as well. She's pretty good about it. I get a Bible reading once per schedule and a talk 3 (old talk 4) once a year which I slant away from traditional GB worship. I even get to represent the congregation in prayer on rare occasion - go figure!
Ministry once a month visibly at congregation Saturday effort - I work alone with some NH's where possible - do a couple of visible pretend doorbell ringings, disappear to the local DiY shop or similar and arrive back at the territory after "doing a RV" about an hour later to hand in my NH's appropriately doctored. I report 6/7 hours "every month" which includes a "phantom incidental witnessing at my place of work".
My wife and I are not restricted by "Watchtower Bedroom Law", my mind is completely free and being a happily married male in my late forties I am content with my lot and my lies as to me it is theocratic warfare in reverse and a tool for my mental and emotional survival.
Some of the stuff in the new testament is good advice - work hard, don't be over anxious, provide for your own - watch out for love of money - care for your family - don't judge etc - and I try to follow it to a reasonable degree.
At the moment it is working and I think a geographical move after my father's passing will aid a fade into inactivity.
I'm not proud of the above actions and if I was alone I would have walked out long ago - I even fantasize about doing a "little toe" at the end of a talk 3 but I'm too much of a coward to lose my family ...
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CO/DO's in the UK?
by pobthespazz incan anyone compile a list of as many as possible past and present co/do's from the uk?
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freddo
Hello Eyesthatsee and welcome.
Ex elder here too!
Anyone heard of David Hudson? Recently been moved from Bristol to Berkshire and apparently is an atrocious timekeeper. Like 45 minute field-ministry groups on a Saturday morning at the k. hall - I heard a sister in one Bristol congregation said it was eating into the time of the pioneers and so he said ok no coffee stops then!
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World Cup 2010 - Are you excited?
by lepermessiah ini am so ready for the world cup to start!.
who are you pulling for?.
what players are you looking forward to watching?.
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freddo
Being from England I hope England get to the final. So that I can drive on quiet roads to the Cornish seaside; find a parking space and walk along a sandy beach and enjoy it with a few beers, a camping stove and with no-one else there. In midsummer that is otherwise impossible.
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My Son is studying the lie, this is long but I need help !
by oldflame inlisten, israel: the lord our god, the lord is one.
the lord our god, the lord is one.
jesus is god: .
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freddo
I agree with the oldhippie, teel and slimboy - the trinity doctrine is not supported by scripture. In my view there is more scripture against it as there is for. Especially if you stick to proving the holy spirit not equal to the other two. Stick to false prophecy, UN, Malawi etc. Get him a copy of CoC.
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blood on the hands of the governing body.
by xbro inwe all remember the doctrine of blood guilt,now for some time i have been of the belief that the gb are blood guilty for the death of the witness in the german concentration camps,they were told to preach against the nazi party ,which is in violation of the bibles principle of 'being no part of the world' and is verging on political action.
this work drew attention to themselves by the german authorities.
had they just been good christians and keeping out of politics none would have died in the camps..
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freddo
Well xbro - two things...
1. No Governing Body to worship err... obey back then. Just Good ole Judge Ratherflawed.
2. Not joining the German military when conscripted in Nazi Germany would result in death or concentration camp anyway - whether you preached against Uncle Adolf or not.
But I agree that the Judge (as in "I tried one court case for four days so I'm a judge doncha know?") sat in his big tower/cadillac and hung his followers in Germany out to dry and so did the GB when it came to Malawi - now there's a case that fits your description perfectly.
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freddo
Matthew 7 v 1 and 2 BOKF, Matthew 7 v 1 and 2 ...
Seriously - I hope you find what you are looking for.
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The Rise of the Conscious Class
by truthseeker in"i believe in one god, and no more; and i hope for happiness beyond this life.
i believe the equality of man, and i believe that religious duties consist in doing justice, loving mercy, and endeavoring to make our fellow-creatures happy.
but, lest it should be supposed that i believe many other things in addition to these, i shall, in the progress of this work, declare the things i do not believe, and my reasons for not believing them.
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freddo
Conscious class member here... a very good post truthseeker!
Remember "the tipping point"? Someone please tell me we're getting close to it.
The real deep down truth about "growth" is - baptisms are down! Not hours, studies, mags or RV's - they can all be fudged. Even publishers can come (at age 6) and go (at age 16) and be counted in the meantime - but jw baptisms are down! Yay!