hey everybody, been here lurking for years now... i tired of all the gb 2.0 shit and need to fade successfullydo we have a guide, i am very tempted to go out with a bang, but i want my wife with me, she aint a strong witness and would happily trust me ... i love her a lot.
status as of now,,, read coc isocf, been through jw facts and am convinced this religion is bs, also a ms now :( damn.
Take it steady, you've made a significant change by dropping out of being an "appointed man". Now start doing fun things on weekends right on ministry and meeting times.
Don't blurt it all out at once or she may dive down the rabbit hole. Just common sense stuff. Ask questions such as why all this building work if the end is so close? How does it all chime with Luke 21: 8? Why all the cry for money? Bigger storehouses and all that?
Don't answer the questions just leave them open.
first let me preface my statements about my wife has such: .
she is allowed to believe what she wants and however blind .
and brainwashed i believe she is....she has her rights..
if any one has been taking note of my posts, it could be said that i often mention conversations i have had with dubbies.
in some ways not been dfed has allowed me to gain some real in sight into how they think and their justification for things.
the following is a conversation i just had with an ultra super dub relative, and to be honest i don't know weather i should be laughing or crying over it.. relative: the rc this year is going to be held in the assembly hall.
@Lieu
The end is neigh? You sound a little hoarse.
dear friends, your posts are very good, but we really think that they will change many things soon...for example.
watch tower now are feminist and they protect the gay cause.soon we will have many gay marriages in kingdom halls.you will see.that governing body is really cool.ted jaracz and john barr were the last puritans in the governing body!.
the current governing body is completely liberal, but as yet has some bethelites the old guard working, they are still holding some behaviors .... but very soon you will see ... even in my congregation is very liberal ... not here disassociates for immorality .. just for apostasy ... i fucked three sister, but the elders did not shunned me, but they only help me!
OP.
Go away.
10/8/93 awake article about child abuse misconceptions, checkout the second misconception: children fantasize or lie about abuse.. this article notes how it's extremely unlikely that children lie in cases of abuse (95% in some estimates are truthful) and how even among the ones who lie it's usually when they make a claim (in truth) but then subsequently lie and say it didn't happen, when in actuality, it did.. given this knowledge, why the two witness rule?
95% odds that the child who claims abuse is telling the truth by the awakes own admission, that should be more than enough to change policies of the wts.. http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g19931008/about-child-abuse/#?insight%5bsearch_id%5d=8d161c40-c4d0-4ddb-aadf-bcf2b480d55b&insight%5bsearch_result_index%5d=0.
For balance I believe they tell the truth in the vast majority of cases.
However I can think of at least two cases I knew of where the child had been put up to the lies (one by by a jw mother trying to get a divorce on "scriptural" terms and another non jw divorce case where the mother tried to threaten this to get a better financial settlement.)
Before I get an onslaught I firmly believe that the vast majority of cases are true and that whatever they should always be put to the authorities (social services/police/medical professionals) for handling.
sorry if others have posted this video already.
i have been away a while...maybe i'm late to the party!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_pqu0bln74.
I wanted to laugh; brilliant work! - this cartoon is exactly how jw'ism is. Fortunately "Brother Kent" no longer goes in the ministry because he is (you choose) waiting for paradise by way of:
being confined to home as a "shut-in".
being in Jah-Jireh nursing home provided by brothers and sisters in England who ran ahead of the great organizational chariot.
"a resurrection".
Profoundly sad really - just as sad as a little boy being dragged around from door to door.
i noticed that anthony morris iii just said on the broadcast: "while we cannot control everything that an individual might say, it is clear that over the decades protecting children from abuse is a top priority for this organization.".
that, in my opinion, is a direct response to the richard ashe "spiritual protection not physical protection" deposition.. here's a video putting the two statements side by side.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgevpuyn7gy.
@Naoscillator - I agree 110%
In my experience in the UK when I was an elder legal (and service dept of course) never wanted elders to contact the authorities or warn parents. I know I did both on the quiet and I know one or two others in the circuit at least warned parents too.
"Don't bring reproach" was finally replaced with a grudging "you can't stop anyone going to the authorities" (After the BBC 2002 Panorama programme) - but the whole ethos was to cover up.
I saw ToMo3's "clever broadcast" and his "clever theocratic warfare" and sadly know it will work on most jw's. Sad, so very sad.
this is in the july 2015 monthly program on tv.jw.org cedars wrote about it too.. starting at around 42:30 in the video, morris talks about the child abuse situation for almost 10 minutes.
link to video.
i'm writing a transcript right now.
Well done Candace Conti and all the other brave souls who have had the guts to take on the WTB&TS! You are putting hooks in their jaws and dragging them to where they do not wish to go...
Bravo!
wtf!https://vid.me/8tuy
I wonder if the auxiliary counselor went up afterwards and told him that his illustration should be more accurate?
AC "Brother Jackson, may I have a word?"
GJ (Extending hand to be kissed) "Of course my brother! How much did you love my talk?"
AC (Ignoring all fingers and rings thereupon and turning to Ministry School book) "Under study 40 - Accuracy of Statement - note p225 para 3 - When you are consistently accurate in what you say, you will become to be known as a person who respects the truth. This reflects well on Jehovah's Witnesses as a group. More important, it honors "Jehovah the God of truth."
GJ "That's right!"
AC "Well there is no 50 meter or 25 meter mark on a soccer pitch ..."
GJ "Who is your Co-ordinator brother? Better yet who is your Circuit Overseer?"
so i went out today with my broken leg and got accosted by an old lady, with some magazines.. it was my first ever encounter with a jw in ten years, and i had said 'i know you are jw's, i'm not interested thank you.
" twice.....then she started talking about my broken leg and how wonderful we are made and how amazing the healing process is.... and that's when it all started...."i used to be a bethelite pioneer, now i'm an atheist doctor...".
she was with me a good 30 mins, her elder husband left very annoyed but she stayed, and she was dying to hear everything i spurted out, despite aggressively defending every point, from military engines to paedophilia.
