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  Brighton Convention Roll Call

  by konceptual99 in

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  2. friends

  anyone here attending the brighton rc this weekend?

  hope it's my last....

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  freddo

  Brighton! I'm surprised anyone can get to the auditorium. It's the "Green" capital of the UK - all bicycle lanes and no cars allowed! Absolute mess.
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  Demoted from elder to MS, anybody ever heard of this?

  by Naoscillator in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so a friend in a nearby hall told me their co came through, and in a hellish week of long meetings and inquisition overhauled the boe.

  only one remains as elder, three were re-appointed as ms, and one, the cobe was deleted entirely.. two new elders were brought in as new secretary and cobe / watchtower conductor, respectively, and introduced to the congregation from the platform on sunday immediately following his second talk.

  he reminded everybody of the authority he has and then named the new appointees.

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  freddo

  I have heard (rumour and only in one solitary case in Cornwall, England about ten years ago) that an elder who couldn't cope with judicials and stuff asked if he could be a MS instead and it was agreed by the London Branch.

  But as The Listener said perhaps the rules have changed now the travelling monkeys have their own power.
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  You Tube Video Ex-Betheliite Ex-Walkill Worker Layed Off!

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am not sure if this guy is really from bethel, or walkill, but if he is....this poor guy really tells it like it is from the heart.

  he was surprised.. at the 'oh so fast, pack your bags, get your stuff outta here' layoff !.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk1xh1egjcu

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  freddo

  He sounds genuine to me. Deluded and Naive. But genuine.

  It would be good if he could show the invoice for food and any other documentation. If he left in good standing and it's written on his letters and there is a bill. That would answer Fisherman's points.
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  New letter, re: Fully Utilizing Kingdom Hall Auditoriums

  by suavojr in

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  2. friends

  let the merging begin!!!.

  to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.

  re: fully utilizing kingdom hall auditoriums.

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  freddo

  Congregation "Woe is us" with low elders (5) merges with Congregation smug "We've got more elders because we're spiritual" (10) = 15 elders.

  Who wants to watch the "I wannabe the CoBE" wars?
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  New letter, re: Fully Utilizing Kingdom Hall Auditoriums

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  let the merging begin!!!.

  to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.

  re: fully utilizing kingdom hall auditoriums.

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  freddo

  I'm sure this is real. It lays the groundwork for the crafty acts of building one hall for every three they close and take the lolly for!

  Be great if it happens here. More chance to hide.
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  HELP - A Guide to Fade

  by cognitivedizzy in

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  2. friends

  hey everybody, been here lurking for years now... i tired of all the gb 2.0 shit and need to fade successfullydo we have a guide, i am very tempted to go out with a bang, but i want my wife with me, she aint a strong witness and would happily trust me ... i love her a lot.

  status as of now,,, read coc isocf, been through jw facts and am convinced this religion is bs, also a ms now :( damn.

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  freddo

  Take it steady, you've made a significant change by dropping out of being an "appointed man". Now start doing fun things on weekends right on ministry and meeting times.

  Don't blurt it all out at once or she may dive down the rabbit hole. Just common sense stuff. Ask questions such as why all this building work if the end is so close? How does it all chime with Luke 21: 8? Why all the cry for money? Bigger storehouses and all that?

  Don't answer the questions just leave them open.
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  BORG choke hold on my wife: what brand of indoctination is she? fear of armagedon or looking forward to new lion in paradise

  by goingthruthemotions in

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  2. experiences

  first let me preface my statements about my wife has such: .

  she is allowed to believe what she wants and however blind .

  and brainwashed i believe she is....she has her rights..

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  freddo

  Why did she fade? Why did she go back? That is the key to all this.
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  Conversation with ultra dub relative. Pure quality this one

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if any one has been taking note of my posts, it could be said that i often mention conversations i have had with dubbies.

  in some ways not been dfed has allowed me to gain some real in sight into how they think and their justification for things.

  the following is a conversation i just had with an ultra super dub relative, and to be honest i don't know weather i should be laughing or crying over it.. relative: the rc this year is going to be held in the assembly hall.

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  @Lieu

  The end is neigh? You sound a little hoarse.
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  The new Governing Body is liberal. they are really freeminders!

  by rege brazzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  dear friends, your posts are very good, but we really think that they will change many things soon...for example.

  watch tower now are feminist and they protect the gay cause.soon we will have many gay marriages in kingdom halls.you will see.that governing body is really cool.ted jaracz and john barr were the last puritans in the governing body!.

  the current governing body is completely liberal, but as yet has some bethelites the old guard working, they are still holding some behaviors .... but very soon you will see ... even in my congregation is very liberal ... not here disassociates for immorality .. just for apostasy ... i fucked three sister, but the elders did not shunned me, but they only help me!

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  freddo

  OP.

  Go away.
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  1993 AWAKE on Child Abuse

  by The_Doctor10 in

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  2. child-abuse

  10/8/93 awake article about child abuse misconceptions, checkout the second misconception: children fantasize or lie about abuse.. this article notes how it's extremely unlikely that children lie in cases of abuse (95% in some estimates are truthful) and how even among the ones who lie it's usually when they make a claim (in truth) but then subsequently lie and say it didn't happen, when in actuality, it did.. given this knowledge, why the two witness rule?

  95% odds that the child who claims abuse is telling the truth by the awakes own admission, that should be more than enough to change policies of the wts.. http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g19931008/about-child-abuse/#?insight%5bsearch_id%5d=8d161c40-c4d0-4ddb-aadf-bcf2b480d55b&insight%5bsearch_result_index%5d=0.

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  freddo

  For balance I believe they tell the truth in the vast majority of cases.

  However I can think of at least two cases I knew of where the child had been put up to the lies (one by by a jw mother trying to get a divorce on "scriptural" terms and another non jw divorce case where the mother tried to threaten this to get a better financial settlement.)
  

  Before I get an onslaught I firmly believe that the vast majority of cases are true and that whatever they should always be put to the authorities (social services/police/medical professionals) for handling.