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  Letter # 4 to the Governing Body of Jehovah's witnesses

  by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM in

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  the governing body.

  service department of jehovah’s witnesses.

  2821 route 22. patterson.

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  freddo

  And somebody will be assigned to read them. I doubt it is a GB member or GB helper of course but more like a Service Dept lackey who simply has to scan read and sort into one of three piles.

  Pile 1 "To be forwarded up the food chain"

  This pile is for the correspondence that the lackey feels needs to be read by someone with more authority. This pile is small.

  Pile 2 "Recycle"

  This pile is for letters that are obviously apostate or questioning. This pile is growing and binned. This is where your letter is headed.

  Pile 3 "Accounts"

  This is for fawning/gushing letters with cheques attached. This pile is too big sadly.
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  Contempt of court, case in San Diego county really disgusts me!

  by Crazyguy in

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  this case has to be talked about by ever awake jw every apostate everyone.

  this case because they refuse to hand over documents the court already knows they have because they handed them over before but heavily redacted, is the icing on the cake!

  this case shows thier evil plain and simple.

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  @cognac

  Thanks, I look forward to what you can tell us.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses face £1m legal bill after young girl was sexually abused by one of its members

  by Researchedandenlightened in

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  hopefully more financial trouble for them to come in uk !!.

  jehovah's witnesses face £1m legal bill after young girl was sexually abused by one of its membersread more: http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/jehovah-s-witnesses-face-1m-legal-bill-after-young-girl-was-sexually-abused-by-one-of-its-members/story-29491614-detail/story.html#ixzz4dqkbhccq follow us: @leicester_merc on twitter | leicestermercury on facebookread more at http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/jehovah-s-witnesses-face-1m-legal-bill-after-young-girl-was-sexually-abused-by-one-of-its-members/story-29491614-detail/story.html#hel6rjg74wdprrdh.99.

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  So can they appeal this judgement? If so where would it be heard (i.e. what level of court would it go to?)
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  Bethel Economy

  by sp74bb in

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  revelation 6:6 kjv.

  6 and i heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, a measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.. this prophecy starts to be true in south europe bethels..... according to our sources, bethel families have been asked to reduce their food allowance and even been informed that monthly contribution might not be paid.. meantime, one of these branches is sending millions of € every year as donation to other wt structures, not to mention the 7 digit number on their bank account.

  bethel members are not blind ;).

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  I'll have some of what you're smoking.
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  Jesus Knows the Day & Hour Now?

  by KillerJones in

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  i was skimming the july 2016 wt study article and came across a paragraph indicating that, despite scriptural evidence, the governing body indeed feels that god's son now knows the exact day and hour of armageddon.

  is this 'new light'?

  from the second study article, page 14, pgh 4:.

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  "In the 1st Century Jesus would have upheld that Christians abstain from ingesting blood as it represents life and a life was always taken when blood was obtained; however with medical advances and the fact that no one dies donating blood and it actually saves lives it is reasonable to conclude that Jesus would approve of the medical use of blood."

  (Book of Freddolossians Ch1. vs 1.)
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  To UK members that go to meetings - did Brexit cause a spike in meeting attendance last weekend?

  by freddo in

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  i went to the mid week meeting and looked at the attendance figures on the noticeboard for the three congregations that share the local kingdom hall.

  i wrote down the three previous sundays attendances and this sunday (after the referendum) too.

  cong c. (95 pubs) 74/82/73/90.

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  @ alanv

  Sorry for late response. I was already mentally free before the ARC and the flipchart on the mount of olives exSplane-ing the overlapping generation.

  The ARC just confirmed my own experiences as an elder to how the borg wants nothing of child abuse reported to the secular authorities and the 1995 generation change should have told me the gig was up let alone the several since then.

  Just treading carefully for family.
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  Did you have "Your chair" or place you sat at the K.H??

  by karter in

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  i never really did but lots of the "friends" did like one brother who felt the cold and had "his chair" by the window and was always closing the window when everyone else wanted it open.. karter..

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  This is true.

  In the 1980's in our hall we had a new ventilation system put in. It was just as crap as the old one but I digress.

  The old system had a dial thermostat on the wall which was disconnected but left in place until the next wallpaper hanging.

  An elder got on stage and said "if anyone feels it is too hot or too cold then speak to one of the attendants and he will help".

  I was an attendant and we were told that if anyone wanted the heating changed up or down we should go to the thermostat and move it in the appropriate direction.

  Of course nothing happened because it was disconnected! But the person believed something was being done! This lasted for about a year until the hall was remodelled and the redundant but visable thermostat was removed.

  Placebo at its finest!
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  Beard's Coming to the Borg!

  by DwainBowman in

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  wt sept study edition, page 17, paragraph 17!

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  Please please read this: (it is on the WT CD-ROM) trousers not beards ...

  8. If slacks or pantsuits for women are frowned upon by many in the community, likely some different style of apparel for public dress would be advisable for a Christian sister. During cold weather ...( blah blah ). But in frigid climates, where everyone in the community wears clothing appropriate to the weather, such as slacks, surely it is proper for Christian women to do the same. In some places, pioneers have been aided thus to maintain robust health for putting in long hours in service. (blah blah)... The elders should not seek to impose their own preferences on others but likely are in position to offer advice on what might be acceptable in their respective communities...

  Q p.8 How can a sister tell whether it would be appropriate for her to wear pantsuits or slacks in her community?

  WT 15th August 1975, page 500 para. 8

  So here we are, 41 years later in loony dubland with internal social pressure stopping sisters wearing trousers anywhere outside of the North Pole!

  And what will elders do over the next few months? Spend hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours debating whether to apply anything new in regard to beards while more of us slip away from their grip. Hooray!!!

  Rant over.

  (italics and bold mine)
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  Need a Caleb&Sophia-doll?

  by crazy_flickering_light in

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  it`s so crazy:.

  http://4ourkids-shop.com/epages/79abeb7d-1743-402a-b693-f12374c6191f.sf/en_us/?viewobjectpath=%2fshops%2f79abeb7d-1743-402a-b693-f12374c6191f%2fcategories%2fshop.

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  freddo

  Toy Story 4

  Door closes and Sophia and Caleb come to life.

  Sophia: "Oh no! We're gonna get dragged off to another boring meeting."

  Caleb: "Let's jump out of the window into the yard and the bully next door can find us and destroy us!"

  Sophia: "Yep! Gotta be better than a lifetime of meetings and ministry."

  They hold hands and leap to their doom.

  Maybe that's just a bit too dark for a young audience!
  
  
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  One of the Most Obscene Phrases in Any Language; the Judicial Committee

  by TMS in

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  a tribunal of religious, if not spiritual, men, whose decision can alter lives, disrupt, no, destroy, families, ruin young lives, create angst, pain, depression, hopelessness, sorrow, despair can be the job for three typically unqualified men known in jw land as the judicial committee.. my first judicial experience as a kid of 18 serving on the jc involved disfellowshipping an elderly sister for apostacy when she would not promise to quit frequenting a neighborhood christian science reading room for personal study.

  my second big case involved a baptized 12 year old who allegedly stole a hot wheel from k-mart.

  he admitted to nothing, answering every question with "i dunno" and was put on probation, the 60's equivalent of reproof.. in subsequent years, i "served" on committees judging accused adulterers, fornicators, thieves, gamblers, non-providers, taking up boxing, slanderers and yes, apostates, sitting also on so-called appeal committees as well.

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  I can fully vouch for TMS's description of the "arrangement" prior to 1971.

  In a congregation the only "elder" (presbyter) was the Congregation Servant. The Assistant Congregation Servant was termed an "assistant ministerial servant" (diakanos) - as was the Bible Study Servant. These were the service committee.

  Also the Watchtower Overseer and School Overseer were "assistant ministerial servants" but unless there was illness or someone being away for a long time or it was a close relative being dealt with then the three brothers described by TMS always did every judicial committee.

  You need a hard copy of Qualified to be Ministers (1967 was the last copy I think) to check I have this right.

  I was just a kid but even in our hall at the time where we had several baptised men our Bible Study Servant (forerunner of service overseer) in 1970 was a keen pioneer of only about 20 and so would have been on the judicial committee.