Posts by freddo

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Big news from Kim and Mikey, they state in thier latest video proof the WT invested in the Nazi war machine!!

by Crazyguy in

this is big!

according to what they say if i'm correct an investigation was done back in 1998 in concerning what american companies invested money in to germany.

mike and kim state that a document they have attained shows a list of american firms that had invested into germany as late as 1943. on this list is non other then watchtower !!

freddo

@Thisisme ...

What's the point of posting unsupportable allegations about the WT, especially when the documents clearly indicate otherwise? I saw the documents and read them when posted previously. They do not support what Mikey and Kim say they do IMO. To not call it out feeds into the "Apostates lie" lie that comes from WT.

They have been over eager. They should apologise. Just like Cedars did over a fake recording that he attributed to the WT when it wasn't so.

It takes big men and women to say sorry we got it wrong and they go up in my estimation when they do.

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Big news from Kim and Mikey, they state in thier latest video proof the WT invested in the Nazi war machine!!

by Crazyguy in

this is big!

according to what they say if i'm correct an investigation was done back in 1998 in concerning what american companies invested money in to germany.

mike and kim state that a document they have attained shows a list of american firms that had invested into germany as late as 1943. on this list is non other then watchtower !!

freddo

Let's hope Mikey and Kim issue a retraction and an apology just as we would wish (pigs might fly) the WT to do.

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Why start preaching work in 1876? Something to ask JW's who are still in

by fedup in

we learn from the bible that the characters that preached doomsday messages, such as lot, noah, etc all got to see the result of the message they preached, we studied that the final judgement from god was seen by the preacher as well as the people that heard and ignored the message.

my point is this, it would have been ridiculous for noah to start preaching to people, put the fear of god in all the listeners that the flood is coming, build the ark and then as a result, nothing happens to them.

even if the flood would have happened later, let's say 50 years after noah and all the people that heard him have died from natural causes.

freddo

Of course, according to Genesis life spans were much longer prior to the flood so although Noah could have preached for hundreds of years to the same people yet it was only recorded as about 40 years.

Unlike 1876 until now which would have meant my great great grandfather hearing it in 1876 at approx age 24, then my great grandfather hearing it at age 24 in 1900 then my grandfather hearing it at age 34 in 1924 then my father in 1950 then me in 1976 and then my children in 2000 - so six overlapping generations of which only the last two are alive.

Crazy!

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Publisher death nail.

by Chook in

i have done this exactly as quoted more than once.

i ask elder if it's better to hide serious sin or reveal, of course we know the answer.

then i ask them to explain elders book page 38 paragraph 19, which say it's sometimes ok for elder who has committed immorality and has kept it secret to continue serving as elder.

freddo

Actually it also includes MS's and possibly pioneers? ("appointed man" not just elder) Maybe pioneer sisters too?

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So How'd you like your Last Resting Place?

by snugglebunny in

jw
friends

like this perhaps?

it is pretty cool after all... .

(i took both of these pics and the difference was, well, obvious!).

freddo

@snugglebunny

How about in a Castle Class loco crossing the Royal Albert Bridge at Saltash? Not a bad way to go up in smoke!

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Call for Judicial Hearing by signed letter

by sp74bb in

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friends

i'm quite surprised about the new approach of some local congregation brothers respect about my fade.... funny, ilegal and very dangerous in view of the different laws regarding personal data and minorities in spain and in the eu.... i already organized a press meeting with main newspapers in spain.

many has shown interest in this situation.

the fact of that a parallel judicial system do exist is amazing them.

freddo

Dear Brothers,

So XXXX says I have had sex out of wedlock. Really? Have you another witness to this accusation against me? If not then is not the procedure set out for Jehovah's Witness elders is that the body should ask two elders to investigate, not to set up a judicial committee.

Yours etc ...

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Updates to Public Talk Outlines 2 & 3

by wifibandit in

will you be a survivor of the last days?.

serving with jehovah’s unified organization.

move ahead with jehovah’s unified organization.

freddo

Thanks for this Wifibandit. Brilliant job.

Any sign of what the CO's will be discussing with the elders and servants on this round of visits? Nice to get a "heads up!"

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Visit From Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

had two lovely jws (stephen and ruth) visit this morning.

this was our second study in the last 2 weeks.

they first knocked on my door (bell is out) 3 weeks ago and i shared my testimony and we arranged to meet last tuesday which we did.. our first study went like this:.

freddo

Just a thought V7 ... (you are doing brilliantly IMO)

If you want to play the long game then as Listener says "demonstrate your sincerity". If you really want to "display humility" and "readiness to listen" then ask them to pray to help you have faith in what they are saying.

Then maybe go along with them for a visit or two and explain how you've given them a chance to explain their view but that you sincerely believe it to be going against "God's word."

Then be sad that they are disappointing and seem to be "wilful in their disbelief" because they put their religion's writings over the scriptures.

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The Biggest Mistake The GB Have Made In The Last 10 Years

by pale.emperor in

i think the single biggest mistake the governing body have made in the last 10 years has to be creating jw broadcasting and putting their gb members on there... on a weekly basis too.. when i was a kid, i had no idea who the governing body were, what their names were or what they looked like.

there was one or two long term pioneers that knew the names of two of them but that was about it.. when i was about 10yo i imagined they looked something like this:.

ahh.... those learned men with a lifetime of bible knowledge just oozing out of their very hearts.

freddo

Good point Sir 82.

Well if they push out 3 million by their vainglorious stupidity then that's fine by me!

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The Biggest Mistake The GB Have Made In The Last 10 Years

by pale.emperor in

i think the single biggest mistake the governing body have made in the last 10 years has to be creating jw broadcasting and putting their gb members on there... on a weekly basis too.. when i was a kid, i had no idea who the governing body were, what their names were or what they looked like.

there was one or two long term pioneers that knew the names of two of them but that was about it.. when i was about 10yo i imagined they looked something like this:.

ahh.... those learned men with a lifetime of bible knowledge just oozing out of their very hearts.

freddo

But Sir 82 don't forget lack of enthusiasm in North Korea can mean the death penalty. The folks there are even more captive than jw's are.

Back to the GB. If 3 million believing jw's adore them then 3 million range from WTF? through disappointment to despair and back to WTF?

And that's not counting the disgusted "awakening class" and the "in but under the radar for family class" which must count somewhere in the hundreds of thousands?

And like a venn diagram the overlapping third in most congregations in the west that apathetically put in/report less than 5 hours is probably increasing through 40% now.