Posts by freddo

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LATEST NEWS: CANDANCE CONTI VERIDICT READY - WT LOST!!!!!!!

by Viva la Vida in

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i'm not an expert but that is my understanding of this: .

opinion filed.. (signed published) the judgment against defendants on the negligence count is affirmed.

the judgment against watchtower on the cause of action for punitive damages is reversed with directions to enter judgment for watchtower on punitive damages.

freddo

DNCall

I have no legal background, but what you say makes sense.

At this point in time (I don't what appeals are available still to WT) it appears that a precedent has been set which means that all the cases still rolling down the pike have a precedent to refer to and will be so much easier to take to court and win.

Forgetting that this is against WTB&TS - frankly, damages in the order of tens of millions does seem disproportional to my inexperienced eye but that does not seem to be the point. If every individual who has a valid case against the WT that is proved gets about a million bucks plus costs from the WT each time and builds on the precedent set then that is a pretty fair result IMHO.

Hats off to Candace Conti!

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Hold Me, Thrill Me

by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

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i'm going to be honest and from the heart when i say that for 40 years in the jw religion i was very happy in my ignorance!

man, what a trip it was.

i loved every minute of it but then i was absent the bad in my religion.

freddo

> O.P. Sometimes we who have mentally left throw the baby out with the bathwater. I can understand you being thrilled by Jesus' teachings - it's when you add some of the apostles (e.g.) Paul's teachings - and especially when you overlay them with the Governing Body's teachings that the thrill deadens.

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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...

by Stumpy in

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i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.

you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!

what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.

freddo

>Stumpy

Hi there! Welcome. Not easy being an elder once you wake up. Been there. Any family/extended family in? Are you looking to "walk away" without DF/DA or wake up as many as you can?

I saw the broadcast containing the bit about the building leak - like the dancing trolley cart one it shows a level of crazy ...

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Kendrick " Letter of Introduction " from Elders regarding Candace Conti Case

by flipper in

as many of us saw in the pbs news hour program and the abc news nightline program the elders from one congregation failed to communicate properly to the elders in another congregation concerning the child molester jonathan kendrick when he moved to a new congregation.

i have parts of this " introduction letter " from the fremont congregation to the oakley congregation elders so you can read it for yourself and decide how irresponsible these wt appointed elders were.

dated 1/16/98 it opens : .

freddo

Even without what we now know this letter describes JK as a "fine brother" and then lists why he is a complete fruitcake that you would only allow to walk round in handcuffs and with an armed guard.

Makes my blood boil.

Bastards!

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A Subtle Factor That Keeps Witnesses Silenced

by freemindfade in

had an interesting thought this morning.

when a witness is 'in' they think everyone else is following and trying there best all in unity.

i believe the reality is there are a lot of us 'in' who know different.

freddo

Very good post freemindfade. I think you can tell who most of the zealots are "hearts abundance" and all that. But there are lots who are "ill" "depressed" "CFS/ME" types and it wouldn't surprise me if many of them (those that can do what they want to do but can't cope with so-called spiritual stuff)) are only in because they are fearful of the consequences if they leave.

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Memorial attendance up or down on last year?

by freddo in

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friends

as per the title.

and was the one you attended at an early or late time of the evening.. any partakers?.

freddo

As per the title. And was the one you attended at an early or late time of the evening.

Any partakers?

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she passed faithful to the end to them!

by jookbeard in

just found out (second hand of course) and by someone on here that my faithful jw mum passed away within the last couple of days, dont know the exact day, and what cause, she spent the last few years living with my fanatical sister, she was 65 and survived my father by 10 years, bitter, angry and hateful till the end and never as so much enquired or asked how her 2 grandchildren ever were , they are 5 and 7!

feeling a mixture of emotions right now, they were lousy parents in all honesty, she suffered health wise so maybe its for the best, dont even know when the funeral is!

freddo

jookbeard - this is easier for me to say than for you to do, but reading your last post this is my take. Bear in mind I do not know your situation and so I am shooting from the hip.

Don't go to her funeral. She didn't want you there. That is abnormal for any close relative to state. She sounds as if she was a most twisted individual. Maybe she did her own twisting or she built upon others twisting of her.I don't know.

It seems that her life was all about her. I've found some (not all) witnesses joined for what they could get. They obviously felt they deserved better than the rest of humanity. They deserved everlasting life; they deserved their parents being resurrected, in short they felt entitled. As the years slip by they get disappointed, depressed, negative, bitter and twisted.

She allied herself either tacitly or openly, I do not know which - with your abusive father - and she hated having been exposed - for her inaction or support of his behaviour - along with him.

If there is anyone who might be puzzled by your not attending that you care about you could send them a note saying that you would have gone to your mother's funeral as any normal loving human being would. But explain that (name the individual) told you that your mother did not want you there. Tell them you have no reason to doubt that individual's word and so have chosen to stay away.

HTH

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Jehovah God commanded the angels to worship the Son When change?

by berrygerry in

jehovah god commanded the angels to worship the son, but he himself did not bow down to his son.

jan 1, 1953 wt, page 23. when did this change (the nwt was already published).

freddo

Hebrews 1 v 6 changed in the 1984 NWT reference edition. "Worship" became a footnote to "obeisance" and in the 2013 edition "poof!" footnote becomes "bow down".

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