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  Are JWs the worst restaurant customers?

  by Alfred in

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  (a little background info before i ask my question...).

  my sister-in-law (non-jw), who manages a popular chain restaurant near a kingdom hall, just found out that my wife and i have recently faded, so she decided to get something off her chest the other day... you guessed it: she wanted us to know that jws are the worst customers ever!

  she then told us some really embarrassing stories about how jws would request a table for 15 to 20 people (after a sunday meeting) and then (when the bill came) some of the jws would start deliberating amongst themselves on whether or not the waiter was diligent or not (to justify the low tip he was getting anyway).

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  wantarevolution

  well - it was the opposite where I was from. I worked in a restaurant through college (*gasp - a dub that went to college). A group of witnesses came in from another town, they were driving back from a zone talk . Anyway, my country doesn't have the tradition of tipping and to be honest - the wage I was on was enough to live (at the time we made 10€ an hour base + whatever tips were given it usually averaged an extra 15-20€ a night).

  Anyway, they didn't know I was a witness but i vaguely recognised one of them from being the guy that adjusted the microphones at assemblies and a couple of others as well - they were a group of witnesses, they looked too smartly dressed, though ties were off, for a sunday evening crowd. They came in and asked if there was a chance of some tables. They didn't request a big group table but split the group between 3 or 4 tables. They were polite, had their fair share of drinks and were pretty loud, but no more so than other tables.

  The left after their deserts, split the bills evenly on some tables, others i could tell were pay for your own (which when some have a steak, the others a salad is pretty normal). Aside from the bill - which for each table averaged 120€ or so, on one table was a 30€ tip and on one of them - a 50€. On the night i saw that each witness had tipped 10€.

  My point is, you can't generalise on diners - jerks come in all sizes

  As ex witnesses, or ones on the way out...i think there are an awful lot of other things to keep our grey matter occupied than tips....
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  Higher Education June 15th Watchtower 2011

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "higher education: jesus warned against seeking your own glory.

  (john 7:18) whatever you decide as to how much secular education you will obtain, have you made sure of the more important things?phil.

  1:9,10.. grzegorz, the computer programmer, made some changes in his life.

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  after the zone visit, my wife who is slowly waking up (Despite lovebombing in our new hall...) and I were talking. We both agreed that if and when we have children, education is an absolute priority, and also will be our childs choice and no one elses.

  Small steps are sometimes the best :)
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  Madrid Zone talk

  by wantarevolution in

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  2. friends

  ok - so we were visiting friends in madrid this weekend, and went to the zone talk.

  around 13500 in attendance at an old bull ring and the talk was given by david splane.

  improvements for the field were to make sure that everyone is preached to - there is a tendency just to preach to south americans and ignore spanish people - also magazine placements are down, they have to be improved.

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  Ok - so we were visiting friends in Madrid this weekend, and went to the zone talk.

  around 13500 in attendance at an old bull ring and the talk was given by David Splane.

  Improvements for the field were to make sure that everyone is preached to - there is a tendency just to preach to south americans and ignore spanish people - also magazine placements are down, they have to be improved.

  The title of the talk was "are you wearing saul's armour", and was talking about how we can fight our giants wearing Saul's armour or David's way.

  1st giant- education.....we don't need a full education, he then trotted out examples of brothers that had left bethel and became high ups in companies. My "favourite" quote from this section was "children, remember your parents want you to serve jehovah full time, don't disappoint them". 20 minutes he spoke about university, and is the closest they came to banning it

  2nd Giant - peer pressure....not to be afraid of being different. In all honesty aside from the section about forcing your kids to go to meetings, as we often have to do things we don't want...this section was actually quite good.

  3rd Giant - ourselves and disappoitment....not to let negative thoughts win. Again, this section was actually quite loving - and practical. However it was tainted by the first one :)

  I don't have a recording, however i will trail around for one
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  For Those Who Married "in the truth"

  by Magwitch in

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  2. relationships

  how did you meet your mate (convention, local hall)?

  did you date long?

  did you really have anything in common other than the same religion?

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  we met through friends at an incredibly fun party in an incredibly fun city when I was visiting another friend. We hit it off, and hung out the next day as she wasn't working.

  the day after, I went home - she came with me to the airport - we stayed in contact and then 3 months later I moved down to said fun city. 6 months later we were engaged, 3 months after we were married. That was 18 months ago. Despite differences of opinions regarding JW's now (she was lovebombed to hell in our new hall) we are still very much in love.

  Our hall was pretty liberal, no chaperones required and it was taken as a given that we hung out a lot alone - which we did . As for anything else, what goes on tour stays on tour :)

  It was our biting sarcasm that attracted us to each other - plus she is smoking hot and as funny in english as she is in her other language.
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  Ex-Witnesses in Ireland...

  by jdhf in

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  2. friends

  hey there....i've been noticing that there are quite a few support groups in other countries for those who leave the 'truth'.

  i am appealing to those who are in the emerald isle to see if there is any chance we can get together and enjoy 'real' association, being of same minds etc.

  anyway... i will put this out there and hopefully those in ireland will get in touch and we can support each other!

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  i was in ireland for many years - now one of the many that left for work :D

  still "active" so technically undercover
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  The Watchtower Society: aka "The Dream Killers"

  by JimmyPage in

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  2. friends

  do you have talent as a musician?

  how much better would it be if you focused on pioneering!.

  are you artistic?

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  I tend to think of them more as the "dream putter offer". I've lost count of the number of "experiences" at assemblies, watchtowers etc where the person was "Well i really wanted to do (insert nice, valid honest dream) however, there'll be plenty of time for that in the newsystem, for now I'm just going to waste my time and be a martyr for a publishing company pioneer"
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  a BIG shoutout to jwfacts

  by poopsiecakes in

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  2. beliefs

  im sure this has been mentioned many times on this site but i wanted to express my personal feelings of gratitude to paul at jwfacts.com.

  paul, your site changed my life.

  even though i discovered it when i was already disfellowshipped and really didnt have the intention of going back, i was still a fierce jw apologist.

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  I use it all the time (it is open at the moment actually :D). My wife is just waking up to things slowly, I got home the other night from work - and jwfacts was in the history. I never use it from that completed, it was open on the "Generation" page.

  even it helps her a little on the way - Paul, should you ever come to europe - beers are on me!
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  Since You're In The "World" Now What Types Of Friends Do You Have?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  jehovah's witnesses are supposed to be the best friends you could ever have.

  they're supposed to be genuine and loving.. not that you're out of jw friends, what's it like?.

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  I am still "in" but maintain the best friendship, that is ongoing was and is with a friend from school, who i went through university with. He couldn't be any more different from the "friends". For one thing, he's gay, not that there's anything wrong with that.

  When I was first waking up to the BS that is being a JW, he was the sounding board, usually over a beer or 3.

  Still is probably the best friend you could ask for.

  Now as for jw's, the only friends i seem to keep are the ones on the periphery of things - or slightly "out there" and are actually true friends. I've never wasted my time with the shoe shiners
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  Elder says that there're apostates who are organized in Spain

  by cattails in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  an elder said that there are apostates organized in spain to make the sale of the spanish branch money go to the congregations that provided the funds.

  he has photos of the place from an email and had heard this from a circuit overseer who just visited there.

  has anyone heard confirmation of this?.

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  well- at our meeting, we've just had 2 ex-bethelites join who told me the following - The plan is to sell the present site (Except the assembly hall accross the road) and move to a smaller location, perhaps out in the countryside. The land would be worth a fortune - the buildings probably not so much. There are rumours (note! RUMOURS) that the spanish airforce, who have a base next to the site are interested)

  Eventually the plan is to have spanish bethel have around 20 or 30 in it - basically a service desk.

  As to where the money would go? Well to the world wide work, obviously....
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 01-03-10 WT Study (YOUR PRAYERS)

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  comments you will not hear at the 01-03-2010 wt study (november 15, 2009, pages 3-7)(your prayers).

  review comments will be in red or headed by comments.

  wt material from today's wt will be in black.

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  wantarevolution

  Blondie

  We were travelling, so "missed" the watchtower study this week - thank you as ever for this.

  What is funny though, this week at our school/service meeting, my wife and I noticed there was no one "embracing" during the prayer, except for us and a couple just moved in from Bethel.

  A friend of ours who was sat at the back noticed we were "embracing" in the prayer (she has a newborn so keeps her eyes open) and I had the following interchange

  "good on you...just wait until someone comes up to you about it though".

  Apparently, in the last song/prayer on sunday herself and her husband had their arms around each other, and the COBE came up to them and asked them if they had been listening to the WT.

  At the meeting, they carried on just as normal :D