i guess you would have to be kind of old school to have met the guy.
i've only met a current gb member before he joined.
he seemed nice.
i met samuel herd once and briefly talked with him in an elevator.
i have met geoffrey jackson on more than one occassion and had dinner with him and a group of others once. i actually enjoyed talking and meeting with him. i got the impression he is more of a "yes" man than anything. probably one of those on the governing body who doesnt make waves and follows along with the old timers.
i have to give kudos where due. this is very cool. sometimes you just have to give it up.
i look back now and think what the hell was wrong with me?
it's just so crazy to be so blind.
everytime, i'd think that this or that wasn't quite right, i'd think i was committing blasphemy.. it's sad to know that's why many people are still stuck in that religion..
yes. still am at times. only because i do not want outed from my progressive fade.
in conjunction with sd-7's topic - so we make it through the big "a".
we go a full thousand years to perfection, and then the bad guy is let loose to see who he can take with him.
is this fair?
if i am perfect, wouldnt i be able to resist any temptations that come my way. usually, i would think the break down would be some flawed thinking in our head. and if we are perfect, then we should be able to see that this is flawed thinking and correct before happening.
Danger Will Robinson! Warning!
in conjunction with sd-7's topic - so we make it through the big "a".
we go a full thousand years to perfection, and then the bad guy is let loose to see who he can take with him.
is this fair?
but dgp, you are on the right track. it is satan 2.0. newer version, only badder. just like in terminator 3 when the new terminator comes and the old one has to fight him. the new one is way more advanced. i wonder if satan 2.0 has a cool laser blaster.
today i was remembering how angry i used to get at the meetings and all the little irritations that in the end would just make my blood boil these included:.
prayers that go on foreverstudy or wt conductors still taking comments when its clear that the point has been covered 20 times alreadymeetings over running by more than 5 minsmy favourite was this one elder who would play guess the point i am thinking of.
he would keep rephrasing the question from the wt until someone would bring up the point he was thinking of.
people who would loudly whisper comments into their kid's ear while the kid was repeating the comment during the book study or wt. then the whole congregation would run over and say how wonderfull little brother so and so or little sister so and so was. great, so your kid can repeat what you say.
in conjunction with sd-7's topic - so we make it through the big "a".
we go a full thousand years to perfection, and then the bad guy is let loose to see who he can take with him.
is this fair?
in conjunction with sd-7's topic - so we make it through the big "A". we go a full thousand years to perfection, and then the bad guy is let loose to see who he can take with him. is this fair? i was good the whole time to make it through, moved on to perfection in 1000 years by cleaning up the mess that was left behind, learning from all the new light and scrolls, and you tell me that i still am not safe? i have to go through this again?
check please? i am outta here.
i have never understood how adults that have had a life in the normal world could be brainwashed into this cult?
ok i know it dosn't happen very often, about 1 in every 10 years in my experiance.
but it dos happen all the same?.
think about how when you wake up in the morning. you never turn the lights on fully at first as it will hurt your eyes. you gradually get used to the light until it is fully bright. just like coming into the religion from the outside. you start with the basics. simple things really. common ground is found. people have a variety of reasons for starting up a study: tramatic issues, bad home life, no friends, longing for spiritual connections. could be about anything. but the beginning groundwork is started slowly with that common ground. trust is gained, and then information is added. as time goes, you find one of two thing really happening. either you become entrenched without really knowing it, or you call BS and run.
i always hated that saying.
as a jw, didnt we believe everyone needed it.
but you would always have brother or sister so and so talking about how miserable someone was, or the problems they had and it always ended with " they need the truth".
outlaw - you are so right with that. my jw brother in law is a self righteous jerk. he is an elder in a neighboring congregation from my wife and i (or now just my wife). a few months ago he was telling me about a guy in his congregation that they went on a shepherding call to. they were trying to bully encourage back to the meetings. he said the guy brought up all this information about failed prophecy and 607. he even gave him info directly from old WT magazines to support some of his claims. by brother in law said that it was just satan pulling another away with lies and falsehoods and that this guy didnt deserve the truth with his attitude and apostacy.
i always hated that saying.
as a jw, didnt we believe everyone needed it.
but you would always have brother or sister so and so talking about how miserable someone was, or the problems they had and it always ended with " they need the truth".
i always hated that saying. as a jw, didnt we believe everyone needed it. but you would always have brother or sister so and so talking about how miserable someone was, or the problems they had and it always ended with " they need the truth". most times, what the person needed was a kick in the head or some common sense.
