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Lillith26
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Really, There Is A Lot To Learn About Your Faith
by AllTimeJeff inin ak - jeffs thread "did jesus ever claim to be the messiah", narkissos said the following that i think, and have learned, is rather profound:.
a better approach to this discussion might start with questioning the presupposition that there was one concept of "messiahship" common to all or even most 1st-century ad jews.. the idea is, we assume that the faith and religion we have now, is as it was way back then... clearly, it isn't.. i haven't devoted a great deal of my time to this subject, but i have read enough to realize that there is a lot more to the history of our churches and religions then we think.
jw history is pretty easy, as they started in the late 19th century.
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When bad spelling trolls leave, new bad spellers (studies, JW's, JW lovers) arrive
by OnTheWayOut ini will totally leave names out, as many get all huffy about that.
it's also possible that i am wrong, though i doubt it.. it's just that some trolls seem to deliberately be terrible spellers to make themselves look more naive and when they leave here for whatever reason, some new bad speller comes along in less than a week with an impossible problem or a complicated love situation with a jw or they are a firm believer with questions.
just watch out.
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Lillith26
aint spellin gr8 ? now i can git strait A'z PMPWLMAO
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Congregation "Bible Study" Comments - Week Commencing 7 September 2009
by LUKEWARM in*** lv chap.
9 pp.
97-109 "flee from fornication" ***.
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Lillith26
" Bottom line: there are children dying of hunger in the world. There are seniors wasting away from neglect. There are folks of all walks of life, races, and ages… who are ill, many terminally so. There are folks that are homeless, abused, abandoned, enslaved, and perhaps worse. My point? As “christians” there is so much more for us to be “worried” about (if indeed we need to worry), rather than whether someone unrelated, let alone related, to us is masturbating. Really. "
I agree, Amen.
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"understand that I am he" Isaiah 43:10
by Chalam inisaiah 43:10 (new international version) .
10 "you are my witnesses," declares the lord, .
"and my servant whom i have chosen, .
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Lillith26
Jesus is one name in a long list of jewish men to claim that he was 'the he'- from the book of Isaiah;
List of Jewish messiah claimants
- Judas of Galilee (c. 4 BCE), discussed in the Acts of the Apostles in the New Testament [ 1 ] and by 1st century historian Josephus in Jewish Wars and Antiquities of the Jews. Judas led a violent resistance against the Census of Quirinius that was to be imposed for tax purposes [ 2 ] . The revolt was ultimately unsuccessful, as detailed in the Book of Acts and the aforementioned writings of Josephus.
- Simon son of Joseph (c. 4 BCE) a former slave of Herod the Great who rebelled. The messiah of Gabriel's Revelation.
- Athronges (c. 4-2? BCE), leader of a rebellion with his four brothers against Archelaus and the Romans after proclaiming himself the Messiah [ 3 ] . He and his brothers were eventually defeated.
- Jesus of Nazareth (ca. 4 BC - AD 30-?), in the Roman province of Iudaea. Jews who believed him to be the Messiah were the first Christians. It is estimated that there are between 1.5 and 2 billion Christians in the world today [ 4 ] , making Jesus of Nazareth the most widely followed Messiah claimant.
- Theudas (44-46)
- Menahem ben Judah partook in a revolt against Agrippa II in Judea
- Simon bar Kokhba (died c. 135), defeated in the Bar Kokhba revolt
- Moses of Crete (5th century)
- Is?a? ben Ya'?ub Obadiah Abu 'Isa al-Isfahani of Ispahan lived in Persia during the reign of the Umayyad Caliph 'Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan (684-705).
- Yudghan, lived and taught in Persia in the early eighth century disciple of Is?a? ben Ya'?ub Obadiah Abu 'Isa al-Isfahani of Ispahan
- Serene (Sherini, Sheria, Serenus, Zonoria, Saüra) (c. 720)
- David Alroy or Alrui (c. 1160)
- Abraham Abulafia (b. 1240)
- Nissim ben Abraham (c. 1295) active in Avila.
- Moses Botarel of Cisneros (c. 1413)
- Asher Kay (1502) a German near Venice.
- David Reubeni (early sixteenth century).
- Solomon Molcho (early sixteenth century).
- Sabbatai Zevi (alternative spellings: Shabbetai, Sabbetai, Shabbesai; Zvi, Tzvi) (1626-1676)
- Barukhia Russo (Osman Baba), successor of Sabbatai Zevi.
- Miguel (Abraham) Cardoso (b. 1630)
- Mordecai Mokiakh ("the Rebuker") of Eisenstadt (active 1678-1683)
- Jacob Querido (d. 1690), said to be the reincarnation of Shabbetai Zevi.
- Löbele Prossnitz (Joseph ben Jacob), early eighteenth century
- Jacob Joseph Frank (1726-1791), founder of the Frankist movement.
- Shukr Kuhayl I, 19th-century Yemenite pseudo-messiah
- Rabbi Nachman of Breslov (Hebrew: ???? ??????), Nachman from Uman (April 4, 1772 – October 16, 1810), was the founder of the Breslov Hasidic dynasty.
- Judah ben Shalom (Shukr Kuhayl II), 19th-century Yemenite pseudo-messiah
- Menachem Mendel Schneerson; a 20th century Rabbi and charismatic leader who is believed to be the Messiah by many of his adherents.
am I too assume that only one of these men had a vaild claim? shoot! if I had a penis I could make claim also LOL
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When bad spelling trolls leave, new bad spellers (studies, JW's, JW lovers) arrive
by OnTheWayOut ini will totally leave names out, as many get all huffy about that.
it's also possible that i am wrong, though i doubt it.. it's just that some trolls seem to deliberately be terrible spellers to make themselves look more naive and when they leave here for whatever reason, some new bad speller comes along in less than a week with an impossible problem or a complicated love situation with a jw or they are a firm believer with questions.
just watch out.
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Lillith26
As long as we spell them wronge, can we name a few????
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To Christians....
by homeschool inwhat do you call god?
do you call him yaweh?
if you believe in calling him by his hebrew name, then do you feel the same way about jesus?
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Lillith26
Why all the masculine names???????? Why not Mother, Godess of Nature, Gramma???? personally It think trying to label god as male or female is just plain sexist! why dose god need to one or the other????
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Sudanese woman avoids court whipping for wearing trousers....Watchtower society furious at decision!
by Witness 007 ina female journalist in sudan was spared a whipping for wearing trousers on thursday and was instead fined $200 dollars......the watchtower society is currently planning to adopt simular punishment for wayward sisters..
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Lillith26
Shit I'd spanked every day! I live in jeans! those poor women! But i did get looked strange for showing up to the KH meetings in my denim! fuk'em all- I could have shown up nude
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When bad spelling trolls leave, new bad spellers (studies, JW's, JW lovers) arrive
by OnTheWayOut ini will totally leave names out, as many get all huffy about that.
it's also possible that i am wrong, though i doubt it.. it's just that some trolls seem to deliberately be terrible spellers to make themselves look more naive and when they leave here for whatever reason, some new bad speller comes along in less than a week with an impossible problem or a complicated love situation with a jw or they are a firm believer with questions.
just watch out.
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Lillith26
Yeah I 've noticed this too... except for my bad spelling and a previous study, I'm not a troll! but I a had collection of toy trolls as a kid- they were sooo cute!
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Practicing Christian Deism- long.
by Lillith26 inwhen jesus said, "you shall love .
what did jesus mean by "love your enemy?
so what did jesus mean when he said, "love your enemy"?
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Lillith26
Thankyou for getting it All Time Jeff
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What do you think - are most ex-JWs atheist, agnostic, or still involved in some form of religion?
by lifelong humanist ini dad 6 years ago because, after a rational search came to the conclusion that there probably is no god.
shortly afterwards, i concluded that (for me) there is no god, which made me feel that i really was a natural-born humanist - a position that i'm entirely comfortable with.
i know that many former jws hold a similar, atheistic viewpoint.
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Lillith26
Good thread- I'd be an atheist my self only I still believe in higher power that is just beond my grasp of knowing. So I bacame a Deist- 95% humanist 4% philosopher and still 1% undesided and reserved for when I do know!